Once again.... fail to answer valid questions and deflect to a different topic.....classic move there, slick.

I don't think anyone would debate whether we needed health care reforms in this country or not - we did. But the government should not be in the health care business, we already had health care programs in place for those that needed temporary assistance but these programs have degenerated into cradle to grave programs for a lot of people, going on generations now. Paid for by tax payers, enough is enough.

First: That article doesn't defend poor planning and testing of the portal to purchase said healthcare plans. There was a quote in there "we should have anticipated...planned better...tested". That's part of my argument right there, made for me by someone involved. No one has ever defended those failures with fact, only with an 8 yr old's logic.
Second thing about that article: there was a reference to effective service to constituents. The republicans were and are listening to theirs and trying to fight back. The democrats didnt, even though the numbers showed it wasnt wanted. Dem or rep, congress and senate electees serve all people regardless of party affiliation once they're elected. The democratic senators and congressmen/women chose to ignore that. Stomp out the people's right to choose. One step at a time. If you can't see the forest for the trees (you think it's a good idea because some smart people say it's good, but don't see it's just one more thing taking away freedoms that made this country what it is, in order to establish more entitlements and take away from those that have more), then I now place you equal to a lemming. Whether you approve or not, you havent shown you can see what's actually happening. You blindly approve simply because it's a democrat agenda, without acknowleging why so many of us have issues with it. I can see where this came from, but I don't agree with its intent, its end result and the pandora's box lid it props open, nor its implementation.

There are many sides to this, yet you continue to argue and support only one of them, never acknowledging any of the others and their validity, even if you don't agree. I won't discuss politics at a mud run, as I'm not there to do anything other than enjoy the outdoors and interact with people I have a common interest with. Ive found politics gets in the way of enjoying that kind of stuff.

Dean,
Why don't you tell us about the average ages of the 7 million and actuary tables . Premiums will skyrocket.. this whole damn thing is designed to fail. The US government is wanting a 1 payer system.