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First time poster here and I wanted to get everyone's opinion on the different mud motor/boat combos that are available today. I live in Central Florida and I want to get a MM/boat to strictly fish in the shallow lakes and rivers that are close by. Typically, I will have one other person in the boat with me and we would like to be able to stand to pitch and flip pads so the stability of the boat would probably be the most important aspect that I am looking for. Speed isn't that much of an issue for me. However, I am thinking that we might be making longer runs (>1 hour) every once in a while so I was thinking about getting console steering as well but wanted to get everyone's opinion on that.

I have the manufactures narrowed down to 2 (Go Devil and Gator Tail). This is strictly due to the fact the dealerships are somewhat close by.

So, what do you guys think? What brand, size of boat and motor should I get? Thanks in advance!


Wed May 16, 2018 10:01 am
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If console steering is a must you’ll be going with gatortail. 1860 gets my vote. Lamarr Cox carries MB, GT and boss and is in Melbourne FYI.


Wed May 16, 2018 10:47 am
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Thank you for the reply! Is there any big advantages/disadvantages having a console?


Thu May 17, 2018 5:42 am
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For fishing, the console is better IMO. It's more comfortable and doesn't beat you up as much. The tiller is better for hunting, especially duck hunting, because I find it easier to pick up and put out decoys, scout, etc, again, IMO. If fishing is what you plan on doing, go console, go wide with the hull, and get you a little worked 3 blade and you are good to go. If fishing was what I had gotten my boat for, i would have definitely gone with a console.

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You might also consider a side console if the center is going to take up too much of your floorspace/walkways.

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Thanks guys! I know the console is more expensive but I think it will be worth it in the long run. Do you guys recommend any "must have" accessories for mud boats in general?


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I would make sure you have a 2 blade prop and a 3 blade so that you have one for fishing and one for winter hunting or fishing the shallows. I also think that gatorglide is a must now that I have a boat with it. Makes going through vegetation effortless. It's the next best thing to a winch. Exhaust is always fun to upgrade too, if you like the sound (I do). But none of those things are musts, they are just nice to have i find.

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I would make sure you have a 2 blade prop and a 3 blade so that you have one for fishing and one for winter hunting or fishing the shallows. I also think that gatorglide is a must now that I have a boat with it. Makes going through vegetation effortless. It's the next best thing to a winch. Exhaust is always fun to upgrade too, if you like the sound (I do). But none of those things are musts, they are just nice to have i find.


Nah you'll hate that voodoo soon enough. Glad I got rid of mine.

OP get a winch or at least a come-a-long and a toe strap. We all try to be responsible, but at some point you'll decide to get a little too Baja with your mudmotor.


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Maybe I'm partial to the loud exhaust because I've had race cars all my life, but I love mine and have never gotten tired of it. To each his own.

I've been running mud boats in south Louisiana for 15 Years and never had a need for a winch, but again, to each his own.

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OP get a winch or at least a come-a-long and a toe strap.

!!!!We all try to be responsible, but at some point you'll decide to get a little too Baja with your mudmotor.!!!!!!!


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Aint that the truth, don't you have those pics on your iphone?

On a side note I run a unbaffled mac. It's very loud, but due to the way muddy buddy's trailer, I won't risk something coming loose and going into my motor.

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A winch is good if you plan on getting reckless I suppose. Don't see where it could hurt you, I just personally haven't had a need for one.

Been running this voodoo for a while. No issues. Had it on a 37 before the 40
And never any problems.

Hope all the info helps you bud

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A winch is good if you plan on getting reckless I suppose. Don't see where it could hurt you, I just personally haven't had a need for one.

Been running this voodoo for a while. No issues. Had it on a 37 before the 40
And never any problems.

Hope all the info helps you bud


Let me tell you about the time dmax and I weren't planning to get Baja and needed a winch all kinds of bad....


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I'm not familiar with this tale of legend, please tell lol

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411sponge wrote:
Thanks guys! I know the console is more expensive but I think it will be worth it in the long run. Do you guys recommend any "must have" accessories for mud boats in general?


Extended deck, bow storage, sliding TM mount for running timber sloughs and a wide open floor plan is a must have to me. A rod box incorporated into bow storage would be nice also, no need to be stumbling around a bunch of crap.

Once you get a MM run it for a season, then get the heads reworked and throw a cam in it.


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F those voodoo exhausts. They are loud as hell. I have the Stainless Works and I think that is loud too.


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Voodoo nation :lol:

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Wchauvin wrote:
I'm not familiar with this tale of legend, please tell lol


So cold front finally comes in, water is very low, i am solo at this point and cannot physically get the boat of the trailer. 1. i need to re due my gator glide 2. it was frozen 3. my disabilities have hindered my man strength.

So I decide I'll take a walk across the ice and flats to the other side of a large slough i hunt allot, where the bank has a creek from beaver dam, always wet and muddy. Unlike the clay over the rest of the slough. I have a volley of GW Teal fly by me as I was walking back to truck, two shots two drakes down.

Bluesky shows up to hunt the afternoon with me, first the boat is frozen to the trailer, took a 20 ton strap and suburban yanking to break it free. Boat goes in water we get to our spot shallow on way in with stumps, but we make it only connecting with one stump hitting motor. We drop are layouts, dog,etc.

I am taking the boat back in that creek to hide under a tree. During parking the kill switch (i was not clipped on because i was idling like 150 ft) flies off.... That turned out to be the only thing i did not have a spare of. so make the hunt figuring i would have something to get us back.

Hunt ends we pack up all our gear, and we used Blue's game hauler to act as the kill lanyard, all was good coming out then, struck a log and barely lost grip, motor kills.

At this point we are in about an inch or two of water, we try pushing back to get a running start but the hard clay bottom said now. At this point it is dark the water if freezing around us, on top of that we notice water is getting lower, uh oh there releasing water at the dams.

So i pulled out a 3500lb atv winch i bought, had never used yet, buddy let me say that winch made the difference between leaving the boat and getting it out that night. I get to a good enough spot where we decide lets go for it, so blue decides take off and ill walk to you.

I take off get out and turn around to pick him up, by this time ice is so thick i am having to drive up and then jump on bow to break it. His big lab could stand on the ice without breaking, However Blue was struggling and he is a pretty fit guy, it was just plain tough wading. I got about a hundred or so yards from him before i was on the clay again, so i stopped, i hear throw me that push pole. So i sling an all aluminum 10ft push pole and it hits the ice and just slides.
Yet he still had to use it as a breaking device to get through the ice.

At the end we were both sore, and not happy. Needless to say there are now 3 spare kill lanyards!!!!!

SO CARRY AN EXTRA KILL LANYARD !!!!!

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Just cut a small piece of fuel line, cut a slit in it sp it fits around the switch. If you lose the clip and get in a bind, that'll make life easier....

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Just cut a small piece of fuel line, cut a slit in it sp it fits around the switch. If you lose the clip and get in a bind, that'll make life easier....

#CFFITR
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Nice, I will remember that Russ, but until i loose the spares......

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An excellent story bro, I appreciate you sharing it. We have had some pretty interesting mornings and afternoons before as well. Needless to say, I don't leave my house without a small tool box and an electrical kit in the boat, just in case we have issues.

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Wchauvin wrote:
An excellent story bro, I appreciate you sharing it. We have had some pretty interesting mornings and afternoons before as well. Needless to say, I don't leave my house without a small tool box and an electrical kit in the boat, just in case we have issues.
Yeah I have a large kit, but for some reason I left that one thing out. Hell i have a case of water, tent, propane grill etc. The ride in was picture perfect though. Glad you enjoyed it, now when we have a skunk day. We are like well you know it could be allot worse. And in all honestly I didn't think of it at the time, why I don't know. I should have just popped the football apart and jumped switch. You live you learn

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Without going through it like you did, you wouldn't have a good story to tell. Sometimes that's all those miserable experiences are good for -stories at the camp around good smokes, cold beverages, and a game of cards. "Fishing stories" would be offly boring if the story doesn't include something going wrong, something blowing up, feeling like you are on naked and afraid even though you didn't sign up for the show, or having a boat fly off the trailer. These miseries add unmatched character to the stories of legend lol

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Thanks for all of the suggestions and stories! I love hearing what others have to say. I would have never thought about buying a wench but now I think I am going to especially after hearing what DMaxHunter went through. AND extra kill lanyards!!! LOL

Got a couple of questions....

What is the advantage of using a 2 blade vs a 3 blade prop?

I was looking at the Back Water Performance Systems, I know I know, I am getting the cart in front of the horse, but I was just curious if I purchased and installed one of those, will it void the warranty? Does anyone else have one installed? Are they worth the extra cash?

Speaking of warranty, do MM even come with warranty? LOL

Thanks again everyone! I really appreciate all of your stories and advice!!!


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411sponge wrote:
Thanks for all of the suggestions and stories! I love hearing what others have to say. I would have never thought about buying a wench but now I think I am going to especially after hearing what DMaxHunter went through. AND extra kill lanyards!!! LOL

Got a couple of questions....

What is the advantage of using a 2 blade vs a 3 blade prop?

I was looking at the Back Water Performance Systems, I know I know, I am getting the cart in front of the horse, but I was just curious if I purchased and installed one of those, will it void the warranty? Does anyone else have one installed? Are they worth the extra cash?

Speaking of warranty, do MM even come with warranty? LOL

Thanks again everyone! I really appreciate all of your stories and advice!!!


Just to make sure I'm reading this right, when you mention backwater performance systems, you mean a mudbuddy surface drive? Or are you talking backwater inc longtails?

If you're just buying a brand new mudmotor, it will have a warranty, but that's based off brand and what mods are done. All new ones from a major manufacturer will have a warranty, and if you buy one that has an un-modded powerhead, it will also have a briggs warranty with it. If you want a console, just get a gatortail since it's available locally. They have great rigs, and great customer service.

With that being said, a warranty is only worth the customer service the company offers, and mudbuddy has been known to not have good customer sat (I don't know if it's better these days). Gatortail, godevil, and prodrive are known for treating customers well.

As for prop, just get a big blade for a stock motor or a hammer for a 37efi or modded motor as your baseline, then try other props from there.

And yes, extra kill switches, winch (at least a come-a-long) is important. You'll learn what to take with you in case of issues. Dmax and I got screwed that time because the kill switch popped while going through some nasty crap and we couldn't get out of it. When we finally got out, the water was freezing crazy fast and we couldn't hardly get going fast enough to get back out of the shallows.

To add to Dmax's recollection, the ice was freezing so fast that when he threw me the push pole, I had to use it to break through the ice so I could keep walking. Without it, the ice was strong enough to hold me for a second or two then it would break. Wouldn't be a bad thing except I didn't know where the little "channel" was that went from calf deep to chest deep. It wasn't a fun night. This was what we were fighting, but at least in this picture the boat had already broken the sheets of ice up.....
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