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Trapper Hart
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Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:06 pm Posts: 16 Location: West Central WI
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 Boat ratings for motors
Does the rating of a boat for max hp differ for mud motors vs. outboard motors.
Does the weight and length of the motor matter also?
Thanks Twig
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Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:01 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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 Boat ratings for motors
Not in the eyes a the law if that's where yer goin with this.
_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:11 pm |
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Trapper Hart
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Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:06 pm Posts: 16 Location: West Central WI
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
No im just wondering cause it seems to me that some boats have bigger motors than they are rated for and my dad says our 14 foot jon boat is only rated for like a 5 hp and I don't believe that for one bit.
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Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:19 pm |
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mud slinger 69
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Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:27 pm Posts: 1194 Location: Utah
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
I believe it my old 1977 14-36 was rated for a 5hp motor.The tag fell off and i put an 18hp surface on it never had them say anything.
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:42 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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 Boat ratings for motors
Last boat I had I called the manufacturer and had a different plate shipped with higher hp rating.
_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:41 pm |
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oncall
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Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 1:46 pm Posts: 1180 Location: Georgia
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
Those ratings are more like a recommendation, not a law. I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket for going over, it's more of a liability if you hurt someone. Most companies will sell a larger motor but won't mount and hook it up for you. I have been wrong before, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong again.
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:00 pm |
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dabuckmaster24
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:15 pm Posts: 135 Location: Mineola, TX
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
Here in Texas the game warden will write you a ticket if they see it over the rating!!!
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:05 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
Mine doesn't have one of those silly stickers. 
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:06 pm |
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oncall
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Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 1:46 pm Posts: 1180 Location: Georgia
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
So, can you also get a ticket if you are over their recommended max persons or weight? Because that is listed on the same little tag.
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:11 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
I never seen a gw give anyone a hard time about either around here.
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:14 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
If that was the case in LA, the GW could stay busy all day long!
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:16 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:19 pm |
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caddobrook
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Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 881
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
There have been other threads about this that you can search for more info, but...
According to a boat manufacturer that I knew, the "Coast Guard" plate that you are speaking of is something that the Coast Guard requires any "non-commercial" or recreational manufacturer to place on every boat they sell. The plate is not binding on the owner of the boat and can be removed by the owner anytime they see fit.
It is simply a requirement of the manufacturer so that the owner can know what the boat was tested/rated for and what the Coast Guard is saying it will handle (both load and motor). He can not sell a boat without it, but that is where the requirement ends.
I am sure that you can and will get different information from others (as with all things) including GW's who may not know exactly what they are talking about. Would not be the first time one of them gave someone bad info.
There are many boats on the water with no visible plate due to several things including it was on the bench seat that was removed, it was covered up as the owner added a extended deck, rebuilt the deck due to damage or something, or the rivets/adhesive method loosened and it just fell off.
He may have misinformed me, but that is what I was told. I was thinking he would probably know and understand what the requirements were. He was a fairly big manufacturer (not a dealer but the actual manufacturer-I was standing in his plant) so I was pretty confident he did know.
In all the times I have been stopped by a GW, they have never even looked at or asked about the plate-been stopped in FL, TX, and GA.
And as eveyone knows all the guys like me who run a custom boat don't even have a plate at all. The GW had to inspect my boat to issue the Hull ID number, and he obviously knew that I did not have a Coast Guard plate.
Not sure if that helps or not, but good luck.
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:00 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/enforcement/do ... ngregs.pdfHere ya go. Page 16 in the pdf. Over powering and over capacity regulations in Wisconsin according to the vessels capacity plate.
_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:48 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
WOW!!!! From the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries Boating Reg's: OVERLOADING: No watercraft shall be loaded with passengers or cargo beyond its safe carrying capacity taking into consideration weather and other existing operating conditions. OVERPOWERING: No watercraft shall be equipped with any motor or other propulsion machinery beyond its safe power capacity taking into consideration the type and construction of such watercraft and other existing operating conditions.
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:16 pm |
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Trapper Hart
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Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:06 pm Posts: 16 Location: West Central WI
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
THANKS HELPS ME OUT ALOT. DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE THATS FOR SURE. HOW WOULD I FIND OUT THE SIZE LIMIT IF I DONT HAVE A PLATE ON THE BOAT
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:18 pm |
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CJB
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Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:46 am Posts: 5216 Location: Across the Bayou, LA
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 Boat ratings for motors
No plate - no limit
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:26 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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Over the LINE
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Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:22 am Posts: 535 Location: New Orleans
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
If you have some time on your hands, here is how the max hp is calculated by the CG. http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_ ... ilders.pdfread down, it is page 5 on I think.
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SwampDonkey1
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Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:09 pm Posts: 923 Location: North Central KS
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waterfowl1
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Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:02 pm Posts: 335 Location: hayward, wi
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 Re: Boat ratings for motors
i live in northern WI. never had or heard of anyone round here having a problem with the game wardens on this issue.
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:17 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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Give Horicon a try. Ya get checked at the landings quite a bit. I'm originally from northern wi too. Hardly ever get checked there.
_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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