It is currently Sat Jul 05, 2025 5:20 pm




Reply to topic  [ 52 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
 V Rake Concealed Winch? 
Author Message
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:24 pm
Posts: 329
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta Nothern Canada
Post V Rake Concealed Winch?
Pretty new to all of this and I have been looking at sites and different builders, I am trying to think of a list of options I would like to have if I ever decide to pull the pin and have a boat built. I will, it is just a matter of when, I am the kind of guy that researches the crap outta something before moving forward.

In all my searching I have not seen a V Rake front with a concealed winch, just winch mount plates. Is this a design that is just not practical or one that the v rake just does not allow for? It would be very nice to have that winch tucked outta the way but still be accessible.

I guess anything is possible with a custom boat maybe a v rake and then the upper bow where the V comes together snubbed off enough to allow for the roller fair lead to be mounted.

Thanks
Phil


Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:12 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am
Posts: 3986
Location: Pville, La
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
Just had this discussion. Two options we came up with is you have to square the last 6" or so of the point or build a plate that will slide in one of the spud receivers. We decided on the spud receiver plate


Sent from my iPhone using


Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:26 am
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm
Posts: 5605
Location: D'town, LA
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
That was my thoughts if I ever wanted to add a winch to mine. I was going to use my spud holes to mount it. But, I was going to make the mount to where I could use any of the four spud holes on the boat. Haven't decided I need the winch...,yet.


Sent using Morse Code from my not so smart phone.


Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:47 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:03 pm
Posts: 461
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
this is what i did with mine...im going to use the front spud hole for my winch plate


Sent from an Apple Tree..


Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:51 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:25 pm
Posts: 1723
Location: Oxford/Jackson ms
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?

_________________
1436 tin can shoved by a 16 GDLT
16.5x48 running like hell from a built 40 merc

Well they call me king turd up here on shit mountain, but if you want it you can have the crown.


Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:41 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:24 pm
Posts: 329
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta Nothern Canada
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:45 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:24 pm
Posts: 2624
Location: ponchatoula, la
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
spud reciever seems the smartest way to me...acts like a trailer hitch hook up on a truck


Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:09 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am
Posts: 3986
Location: Pville, La
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:16 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:32 pm
Posts: 1801
Location: atlanta texas
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?

_________________
1854 DeadFowl custom boat 35 GTR
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."


Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:32 pm
Profile
MMT Addict

Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:19 pm
Posts: 721
Location: carrollton MS
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
take a look at the excel concealed mount, that is my favorite part about the excel boats. it is clean looking and very strong.

_________________
8 foot sneak boat with 8hp go devil going Mach 1
Layout blinds and a whole bunch of decoys


Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:36 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm
Posts: 2005
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
I have a question that no one has seemed to be able to answer yet. What if we used the seat boat hole on the deck. Make a mount on a boat seat mount and when you want the winch, just put it in there. Anyone see any pitfalls with that set up? One that I see is that if it sits low and sorta far back on the deck, that the cable could rub against the edge of the front as the boat gets closer to the anchor. So it may have to be on a short post. But it would swivel in any direction.

_________________
VooDoo--what you get when you leave your Voo outside all night long.


Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:38 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:25 pm
Posts: 1407
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
Seat is not strong enough

_________________
driving a gd in ur lake
and i aprove this message


Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:12 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:43 am
Posts: 1504
Location: Watoola, Alabama
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
i think winch mounts are, whatever you like best go with it. i like the under deck mount myself with rope and not cable i can winch any direction i need. i can also see why some like the spud mount option for front or rear use. i just dont care for it. its kinda like some like skinny girls and some like BIGGUNS. LOL


Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:30 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:24 pm
Posts: 2624
Location: ponchatoula, la
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:46 pm
Profile
MMT Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am
Posts: 1764
Location: Tyler, TX
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?





_________________
Pete Willett
WC Custom Boats - Tyler, TX
http://www.wccustomboats.com


WC Custom 2048 3/16 Bottom Center Console with 35 PD EFI GTR
WC Custom 1840 Hybrid 3/16 Bottom with 37 EFI BOSS


Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:35 am
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:52 pm
Posts: 7064
Location: Mallard country
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


I like their concept and if had built a v then I was gonna go for something along same lines, excepted would have been stouter


Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:13 am
Profile
MMT Elite Member

Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm
Posts: 8133
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
I just have one of those cheap portable winches from Wally world with a strap. Got enough wire to reach either battery from front or back and hook to whatever grab bar, handle or whatever on the boat. Put it in the front box if I think imma need it.

_________________
Before the internet, the majority of the village idiots stayed in their villages.


Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:04 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:42 pm
Posts: 372
Location: AR
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
The spud poles style mounting bracket give you more options to pull from. But either will work. I also looked at one of those portable warn winches, but they are heavy


Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:45 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:58 pm
Posts: 2731
Location: Lafayette, LA
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
If you're using spud holes, mount your winch vertically so it's spins 360 easier.

_________________
1644 WeldCraft / 27 GDLT
Ranger R71 / 125 Merc


Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:55 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
Phil excel has the option to conceal the winch on a v nose with the design dfou was talking about if you'd like to see that in your research.I personally like the spud pole idea that's what I plan to do.. Tomorrow I'm going To visit Prodigy boats, I'll ask him about concealing a winch


Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:54 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:24 pm
Posts: 329
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta Nothern Canada
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:07 pm
Profile
MMT Sponsor

Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:51 am
Posts: 488
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
It is interesting to me that the concealed idea comes up as much as it does honestly. Concealed to me = hard to get to if u have a problem, and if u put it in the nose of a V Rake boat u gonna affect the look of the boat and also compromise some of the strength of the point. We can easily mount a winch inside the bow and put a outlet where the cable sticks out............. just seems to be that using the spud holes with a TM plug as the power source is the way to go cause u can keep the winch in a dry container under the bow...........Also, u can take it out of the boat and remove the weight when u know u dont need it etc.

Just my opinion

If u want a concealed winch in a V Rake we can def do it. But I think there are better/cheaper/more functional alternatives.

Let's not forget how often 99% of people actually ever use a winch...............

_________________
Prodigy Boats
https://www.facebook.com/Prodigyboats
www.prodigyboats.com
Contact for info - http://prodigyboats.com/contact-us/
706-253-7766


Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:38 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am
Posts: 3986
Location: Pville, La
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:54 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:52 pm
Posts: 7064
Location: Mallard country
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
I just don't like clutter so I choose to have a hard mounted winch.. Didn't want it just laying around in the way!


Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:56 am
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am
Posts: 5210
Location: Beaumont Texas
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
I have to winch over levees about every 3rd hunt or so. I put my winch under deck. If I didn't have the levees to cross I don't think I'd have a winch.

sent from the former Republic of Texas.

_________________
You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed.
dying aint much of a livin....

Black ops IITX marshstalker


1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com
fuel injected 25 GTR


Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:27 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:43 am
Posts: 1504
Location: Watoola, Alabama
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:51 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm
Posts: 2377
Location: West Coast Wisconsin
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
A chunk of chain 10-12 inches long mounted to the winch plate and a shackle going to the bow eye or a handle works well also, plus it allows you to pull the hull in multiple directions.


Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:50 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:58 pm
Posts: 2731
Location: Lafayette, LA
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
That's the ticket.

_________________
1644 WeldCraft / 27 GDLT
Ranger R71 / 125 Merc


Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:59 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:24 pm
Posts: 329
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta Nothern Canada
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:18 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member

Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm
Posts: 8133
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
I don't see why you couldn't, just a little bracing to mount the winch on and use a winch with synthetic rope. Then have a hawse style fairlead bent or fabbed to match the V angle of the front rake...

_________________
Before the internet, the majority of the village idiots stayed in their villages.


Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:40 pm
Profile
MMT Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am
Posts: 1764
Location: Tyler, TX
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?

_________________
Pete Willett
WC Custom Boats - Tyler, TX
http://www.wccustomboats.com


WC Custom 2048 3/16 Bottom Center Console with 35 PD EFI GTR
WC Custom 1840 Hybrid 3/16 Bottom with 37 EFI BOSS


Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:54 pm
Profile
MMT Sponsor

Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:51 am
Posts: 488
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
Agree w dfou on spuds and a tm plug.. Then keep the winch in a dry place to keep it out of the elements etc.

Sounds like Phil has a good case where it may make sense to have it thru the hull up front if it is needed routinely..


Truth is 98% of people that have a winch rarely use them. Of course it is not hard to mount one in the v rake and it can b braced up etc..

_________________
Prodigy Boats
https://www.facebook.com/Prodigyboats
www.prodigyboats.com
Contact for info - http://prodigyboats.com/contact-us/
706-253-7766


Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:10 pm
Profile
MMT Super Elite Member

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm
Posts: 16915
Location: Rowlett, TX
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?
Most TM plugs only have 10ga or so wire. Don't recall ever seeing one with anything larger than 8. I'd highly recommend anderson connectors if you want to do quick connects on anything that draws a significant amount of current.


Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:13 pm
Profile
MMT Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am
Posts: 1764
Location: Tyler, TX
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?

_________________
Pete Willett
WC Custom Boats - Tyler, TX
http://www.wccustomboats.com


WC Custom 2048 3/16 Bottom Center Console with 35 PD EFI GTR
WC Custom 1840 Hybrid 3/16 Bottom with 37 EFI BOSS


Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:29 pm
Profile
MMT Super Elite Member

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm
Posts: 16915
Location: Rowlett, TX
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:40 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:52 pm
Posts: 1024
Location: Florida
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:52 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:42 pm
Posts: 372
Location: AR
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:22 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member

Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm
Posts: 8133
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?

_________________
Before the internet, the majority of the village idiots stayed in their villages.


Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:56 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm
Posts: 2005
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?

_________________
VooDoo--what you get when you leave your Voo outside all night long.


Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:09 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:24 pm
Posts: 329
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta Nothern Canada
Post Re: V Rake Concealed Winch?


Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:55 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 52 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 176 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: