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| Author: | PhilD [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | V Rake Concealed Winch? |
Pretty new to all of this and I have been looking at sites and different builders, I am trying to think of a list of options I would like to have if I ever decide to pull the pin and have a boat built. I will, it is just a matter of when, I am the kind of guy that researches the crap outta something before moving forward. In all my searching I have not seen a V Rake front with a concealed winch, just winch mount plates. Is this a design that is just not practical or one that the v rake just does not allow for? It would be very nice to have that winch tucked outta the way but still be accessible. I guess anything is possible with a custom boat maybe a v rake and then the upper bow where the V comes together snubbed off enough to allow for the roller fair lead to be mounted. Thanks Phil |
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| Author: | dfou [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
Just had this discussion. Two options we came up with is you have to square the last 6" or so of the point or build a plate that will slide in one of the spud receivers. We decided on the spud receiver plate Sent from my iPhone using |
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| Author: | BlueShamu [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
That was my thoughts if I ever wanted to add a winch to mine. I was going to use my spud holes to mount it. But, I was going to make the mount to where I could use any of the four spud holes on the boat. Haven't decided I need the winch...,yet. Sent using Morse Code from my not so smart phone. |
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| Author: | jldsc [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
this is what i did with mine...im going to use the front spud hole for my winch plate Sent from an Apple Tree.. |
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| Author: | btmannin [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:41 pm ] |
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| Author: | PhilD [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:45 pm ] |
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| Author: | diddyduck [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:09 pm ] |
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spud reciever seems the smartest way to me...acts like a trailer hitch hook up on a truck |
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| Author: | dfou [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:16 pm ] |
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| Author: | DuckHunterF250 [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:32 pm ] |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:36 pm ] |
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take a look at the excel concealed mount, that is my favorite part about the excel boats. it is clean looking and very strong. |
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| Author: | VooDoo Daddy [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
I have a question that no one has seemed to be able to answer yet. What if we used the seat boat hole on the deck. Make a mount on a boat seat mount and when you want the winch, just put it in there. Anyone see any pitfalls with that set up? One that I see is that if it sits low and sorta far back on the deck, that the cable could rub against the edge of the front as the boat gets closer to the anchor. So it may have to be on a short post. But it would swivel in any direction. |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:12 pm ] |
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Seat is not strong enough |
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| Author: | cr244 [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
i think winch mounts are, whatever you like best go with it. i like the under deck mount myself with rope and not cable i can winch any direction i need. i can also see why some like the spud mount option for front or rear use. i just dont care for it. its kinda like some like skinny girls and some like BIGGUNS. LOL |
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| Author: | diddyduck [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:46 pm ] |
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| Author: | willett [ Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:35 am ] |
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| Author: | Bigrich [ Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:13 am ] |
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I like their concept and if had built a v then I was gonna go for something along same lines, excepted would have been stouter |
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| Author: | Will [ Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
I just have one of those cheap portable winches from Wally world with a strap. Got enough wire to reach either battery from front or back and hook to whatever grab bar, handle or whatever on the boat. Put it in the front box if I think imma need it. |
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| Author: | ARguide [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
The spud poles style mounting bracket give you more options to pull from. But either will work. I also looked at one of those portable warn winches, but they are heavy |
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| Author: | kibb [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
If you're using spud holes, mount your winch vertically so it's spins 360 easier. |
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| Author: | UMRkingsofpush [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
Phil excel has the option to conceal the winch on a v nose with the design dfou was talking about if you'd like to see that in your research.I personally like the spud pole idea that's what I plan to do.. Tomorrow I'm going To visit Prodigy boats, I'll ask him about concealing a winch |
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| Author: | PhilD [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:07 pm ] |
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| Author: | Prodigy [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:38 pm ] |
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It is interesting to me that the concealed idea comes up as much as it does honestly. Concealed to me = hard to get to if u have a problem, and if u put it in the nose of a V Rake boat u gonna affect the look of the boat and also compromise some of the strength of the point. We can easily mount a winch inside the bow and put a outlet where the cable sticks out............. just seems to be that using the spud holes with a TM plug as the power source is the way to go cause u can keep the winch in a dry container under the bow...........Also, u can take it out of the boat and remove the weight when u know u dont need it etc. Just my opinion If u want a concealed winch in a V Rake we can def do it. But I think there are better/cheaper/more functional alternatives. Let's not forget how often 99% of people actually ever use a winch............... |
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| Author: | dfou [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:54 pm ] |
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| Author: | Bigrich [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:56 am ] |
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I just don't like clutter so I choose to have a hard mounted winch.. Didn't want it just laying around in the way! |
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| Author: | eljefe [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
I have to winch over levees about every 3rd hunt or so. I put my winch under deck. If I didn't have the levees to cross I don't think I'd have a winch. sent from the former Republic of Texas. |
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| Author: | cr244 [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:51 am ] |
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| Author: | 50fps [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:50 am ] |
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A chunk of chain 10-12 inches long mounted to the winch plate and a shackle going to the bow eye or a handle works well also, plus it allows you to pull the hull in multiple directions. |
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| Author: | kibb [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
That's the ticket. |
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| Author: | PhilD [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:18 pm ] |
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| Author: | Will [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:40 pm ] |
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I don't see why you couldn't, just a little bracing to mount the winch on and use a winch with synthetic rope. Then have a hawse style fairlead bent or fabbed to match the V angle of the front rake... |
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| Author: | willett [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:54 pm ] |
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| Author: | Prodigy [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:10 pm ] |
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Agree w dfou on spuds and a tm plug.. Then keep the winch in a dry place to keep it out of the elements etc. Sounds like Phil has a good case where it may make sense to have it thru the hull up front if it is needed routinely.. Truth is 98% of people that have a winch rarely use them. Of course it is not hard to mount one in the v rake and it can b braced up etc.. |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: V Rake Concealed Winch? |
Most TM plugs only have 10ga or so wire. Don't recall ever seeing one with anything larger than 8. I'd highly recommend anderson connectors if you want to do quick connects on anything that draws a significant amount of current. |
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| Author: | willett [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:29 pm ] |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:40 pm ] |
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| Author: | gfowel [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:52 pm ] |
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| Author: | ARguide [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:22 pm ] |
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| Author: | Will [ Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:56 am ] |
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| Author: | VooDoo Daddy [ Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:09 am ] |
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| Author: | PhilD [ Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:55 am ] |
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