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cupnglide
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:59 am Posts: 137
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 Transom height experiment
I enjoy trying to solve a good problem. The one I've been working on (for too long) is a slow boat. The boat / motor combo isn't that well suited. Gator Trax 1650 hybrid hunt deck (17'8" long) and a 2013 PD Gen3 EFI. The boat has the V bow and round chines.
I had the transom at the height PD recommends. Problem was, the boat was slow out of the hole, plowed, ran wet, and usually averaged 20-21 mph. Moving weight around made those numbers drop.
It seemed like the shaft/prop angle to get half in / half out on the prop was pretty steep (heavy boat runs deeper in the rear, right). So I had a welder friend drop the transom to 17.75" dead center. The motor went back on laterally in the exact same spot. This flattened out the angle a good bit. It put the handle in a better driving position.
Deep water into the wind was 22.5. With the wind was 25. No wind, deep water was 24. No before and after video proof, but there's a witness to the before and after numbers. The hole shot getting on step is crazy.
This, with the 2:1 gearing and a prop that could use some work, has me pleased with that $80 welding bill. YMMV. Just thought I'd share.
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:57 pm |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: Transom height experiment
Angle of attack change...
Shims might help too....
Place a wedge between MM and transom with thicker end on bottom to also improve angle of attack for prop even more....
GTrax transom angle was designed and optimized for MB...
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:17 pm |
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BlueShamu
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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 Re: Transom height experiment
Thanks for the update...this is something I have been contemplating for a LONG time! Glad to hear it worked out for you.
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:34 pm |
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cupnglide
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:59 am Posts: 137
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 Re: Transom height experiment
Appreciate the tip, Giga. That may be next.
The results were encouraging enough to make me reconsider the 1.52:1 conversion. It has such a hole shot now, I think it would still get up quick enough with the 1.52. And I should gain a little more on top.
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:43 pm |
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Will C
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: Transom height experiment
Nice when a test works that good! Mine is a 1744 gdsd short t. Raised my engine 1". On test run i could not find a sweet spot for trim and turned like poop. I put it back down and is all good. A littlle change can do alot, good or bad
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:48 pm |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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 Re: Transom height experiment
PD recommends 19.5". I dropped mine to 18" simply so that the lower unit would spin "under" the hull rather than the cav plate hitting the transom. Now, I will tell you that when trimmed up, I do now have more tiller torque, but my stage 2 runs 33-34. One thing you need to keep in mind being you went a lot more. By dropping the engine, you have changed the outdrive angle, which is a plus. More "forward" thrust. But is the same token, your engine will appear that it is leaning forward a very dood bit. My buddy said he has noticed that mine looks like its over trimmed, but its not, the prop still grabs. If you drop the frame too much, and the engine is leaning forward too much, your oil level will not be the same and you could possibly do damage to block. It would be similar to running the engine on its side. Some engnes have a low oil shutdown switch. I cant remember if the Briggs has one or not, but keep that in mind when trimming up too far.
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:19 am |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Transom height experiment
It was an option on the briggs. Most don't have it.
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:08 am |
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Will C
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: Transom height experiment
Dam banded, your kawi runs pretty good! Maybe share some tips with this guy ^^ 
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:37 am |
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JLACOUR
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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_________________ 37 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Tiller SOLD -- 36 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Stick Steer SOLD -- 27 PD FPR 16x36 Skiff
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:40 am |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:48 am |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:25 am |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:38 am |
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Will C
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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