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Awesome thanks for the good info, on the first post I meant to say fat blade. Honestly the bottom of my excel is beat to hell and back so I’m not going to be let down by having slower speeds but having some more ass with a new motor to push some meat is the goal


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A perfectly flat boat is obviously ideal, but I have some hooks and dents in the bottom of my skiff (the hull was built in 88 and was and old crawfish and alligator boat), and I have been running over 36 lately by myself and it's been close to 100 degrees outside, so though those little dents and hooks do make a difference, I don't think it's enough for you to worry about bro, I know mine performs just find with the little imperfections and all


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Chauvin did you try the two blade big blade not worked yet? or the hammer not worked. I have the 40 xd as well, it is on a 1860 Tracker Grizzly and has the factory 3 blade prop on it. I can run around 24-25 upstream and around 29 downstream at 4200 rpm seems to be the best performance. I run mainly shallow sandy rivers. Once on plane it runs nice, it seems to struggle getting on plane though. Was thinking of trying a stock 2 blade and was wondering your opinion as it seems you have tried lots of different props and mods on yours already. Just ordered k and N last night, also up north here where im at the best fuel i can get is 91.


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So I’m new to the mud boat world and I’m looking into a war eagle gladiator with a gator tail 37 EFI, and this is by far the best gator tail thread I’ve been on without it turning into a ego battle. Can y’all give me your opinions on that motor or boat? Anything will be helpful at this point cause I’m in the north Texas area and no one really owns a mud boat so I don’t have many people to ask about them.


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As far as the question on the war eagle and 37 goes, I agree with westi. The war eagle is a good boat, but you will come out cheaper and much happier with a custom builder who can do exactly what you want. I got a guy in breaux bridge who I would argue is the best private boat builder I know. His name is Jeremy Brasseaux and does EXCEPTIONAL work. He is very reasonable and does exactly what you want. He has built a few of my friends boats and mine. If you want his contact info, pm me and I'll be happy to get that to you.

As far as props, the only two 2 blades I have ran was a powertech 2 that gatortail offers that was a 10 pitch that was polished and sharpened, and ran 32 empty and 29 loaded. I ran a stock fat blade (not a speed prop but a damn good load and hunt prop) and got 30 empty and 30 loaded. After getting it worked to a 10 pitch, polished, cupped, sharpened, and balanced, I run 32 empty and 32 loaded. Holeshot is second to none with that fatbalde on my boat. Never tried a big blade but want to. Haven't found anyone with one that fits an xd lower yet. Once I do, I'll do a review on it for y'all.

The new rapid prop is fast af. Pm me if you want details on it.

Baggy in Houma does all my prop work and is the best in the industry. With very small mods on my 40 and a loud ass exhaust, I run with the level 3s around my area with his props. If you don't believe me, pm me your number and I'll send you gps speeds and videos. He is great to work with and knows his stuff.

Also, if y'all have any questions about anything, feel free to pm me and if I don't know the answer to your question, I know people who will and can try and help y'all out.


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I have a Gatortail 40 and I am running a Heavy Stumpjumper 1854 with 3/16 double floor. It also has a Catwalk all the way around with a Livewell, storage box, and fishing Deck. I am getting nowhere near the speeds these guys are getting. With a normal load of two people, all our fishing gear, and tackle boxes, I only get 23 with the stock Fat Blade and I get 26 with the 3 blade. Both are stock unworked. With the two blade I can hit the Rev Limiter at will. I have been in contact with Baggy as well.

Although it is much slower I like the 2 blade because of the takeoff. Another thing to consider is reverse. That 3 blade wont backup for crap.

I get there slow but really could care less if I hit something on the way.


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That fat blade worked to a true 10 pitch and with added heavy cupping will help you out bro. If you send your two blade to baggy, I can talk to him and have him work yours the same he did mine. Came out real good and got the gains I wanted from it. I've tried figuring out why my boat runs so much faster than a lot of the other stuck 40s and the only thing I can figure is that my 1848 1/8ths crawfish skiff weighs nothing and it rides perfectly horizontal and only drafts about two inches of water when it's on step, so it just has to be the hull, and not the motor, even though the motor is strong


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That's good yours handles rough water well. Mine may be light and fast but it does NOT like rough water at all lol


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My Motor kinda Rattles mid range does anybody else hear that?


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I get a little rattle mid range as well, and on acceleration from a dead stop until prop starts slipping. I’m pushing a heavy boat though too. Ordered a big blade haven’t received it yet but going to try that and see how it changes things up.


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From what I was reading on the sites the big blade is a better two blade than the fat blade, as far as torque and speed. Guess I will see when it gets here. The 3 blade gtr 11 pitch is pretty fast just has no hole shot with my rig weight combo, about 3 boat lengths or so to get up on plane. Once on plane it’s great it’s just getting there is the struggle also if you slow down then punch it to get back on plane prop seems to do a lot of slipping to shoot back up. Will try this big blade first then maybe look into the hammer if I can get enough rpms with big blade and not happy with performance still. More or less not worried too much about speed as long as I am on plane and doing at least 20 or better with the big rig. My buddies and I do a lot of deer hunting along these rivers her in Iowa definitely need the carrying capacity and a work prop when hauling out these big Iowa white tails. Lol


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Kirk, his work has held up perfectly man. He built my buddy's boat from scratch and it has held up perfectly. My particular boat is a 1988 chapagna custom skiff that I brought to him and had tons of stuff added to to meet my duck hunting needs and my GTR application. His work has held up great. I don't plan on using anyone else but him in the future.

As far as the rattling, I had the same issue. Take your handle and throttle apart and oil all the screws and the locking nut that holds the throttle handle together. I did that and it fixed the noise for me


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-After getting all my batteries installed front trolling motor and such, on my Tracker Grizzly 1860, with a stock GTR 40XD with K and N air filter is all I have done so far. I was running good prior to adding all the weight at around 4200 I could hit 25-26 by myself upstream, and 29-30 downstream depending on water depth. I bought a big blade 2 blade for the 40 tried it today only hitting around 3950-4000 rpms doing around 19-20 with two guys upstream and around 24 downstream. Hole shot was a little better than 3 blade put 3 blade on and was getting same speeds and rpms with two guys. Tiller torque, and vibration was bad with two blade. Any suggestions on getting them rpms up there alittle more I see you guys are consistently hitting 44-4500 rpms. I can raise rpms by tilting motor higher but then I start losing speed same with tilting down the rpms listed above are at threshold of highest speed. Though about different exhaust to get more power possibly but dont want it to be much louder than it is already. Any suggestions?


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Mods or a different boat, or pull that weight back out. There are limits to what that combination is gonna do. The stock 40 exhaust is already flowing enough that going to an aftermarket wont make enough difference to get you where you want to be. Prop work will probably help some, but it's not gonna buy you back 6 mph.

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I agree with the above but using my stock 3 Blade I get 26 at around 3600 with a terrible Back up. With my Fat Blade I get all the Revs I need but 20 to 23 is Max Two Blade backs up pretty good.

Who needs reverse --- I do this thing is heavy and our lakes are low. My heavy boat 3/16 1854 Stumpjumper is hard to get off the trailer.

I sent my 2 blade to Baggy Monday to be worked. I told him about the Tiller Torque but I am unsure if that can be fixed. If I get someone to sit on the far Left side Tiller is neutral, so I know my weight is not distributed very good. My problem is that I most likely will never get it real good because of my Live Well. If it is full the weight is not bad but if it is empty weight is on the Right side.

Saying all that I like my Army Tank Boat. I don't care if I hit a stump or a T post. They won't hurt my boat and my Boat handles rough water pretty well. If I had a true complete Flat Bottom it may run faster but those 2 ft waves would be hell.


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Good to know someone else is in the same boat, pun intended. I just bought the boat in September and motor in laste August and haven’t had too much time to play with it. I set my boat up exactly how I wanted it without sparing costs. I have two group 31’s up front with on board charger and a 24 volt trolling motor also will be having a livewell installed up front. Depth finder up front, headlight, gun box, 12 gallon tank in back 3 seats. I know this boat is not light boat now without people is probably around 1200lbs give or take I think the hull when I bought it was 780lns. I really love the boat, rides nice, just trying to figureing out the best way to get the performance I want out of my motor. This is my second surface drive, bought a brand new mud buddy mini last year the 26.5 Kohler on a riveted 1848 it was a good combo however motor self destructed at 50hrs. This is the replacement, also owned one long tail prior to surface drives, up here in Iowa there are not many knowledgeable mud motor people around, these motors are starting to get more popular up here but for now I am just information seeking.


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Tiller torque is greatly affected by how the weight is distributed in your boat. Move things around, adjust, and see if it gets better. For my skiff, the more weight I have in the back, the faster I go and the less tiller torque I have. Also, trimming too high will affect your tiller torque. Prop work can make a big difference too with vibration and tiller torque. If you sent your prop to baggy, he will balance it and all and that may help you.

Also, check to make sure your engine is mounted directly center of the transom. If it is off even a little bit, it can make a big difference in how that tiller arm wants to push or pull.

Finally, from my experience in my skiff with the GTR, if tiller torque is an issue for you, stay away from 3 blade props, especially the new rapid prop. The rapid prop is the fastest I have tried on my boat but tiller torque is fatal with it. My fat blade can be steered with two fingers. Also, I have found that a cut skeg on the lower results in more tiller torque and makes it a little harder to steer.

Hope this helps yall


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I don’t know how you guys respond to certain people on here.LOL not to savvy on computer things. Chauvin the 3 blade that came with the XD has virtually zero tiller torque when trimmed right. The big blade I tried yesterday wanted to push towards me fairly hard, I am going to give that prop another try. I am big guy, and the second guy I had with me yesterday is a big guy too. Boat rides good when I am by myself but obviously more fun to fish with at least one guy. I think I will send my two blade down to baggy after a bit here, give him a try, then maybe next year I will throw some mods on the motor to improve horsepower not sure which ones yet but my boat is rated for 60hp.


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Looked at all them hulls when I bought the one I did I wanted an 1860 and the person rating had to be higher than 5 beings my wife and 3 kids like to go on the water as well. I like mod v boats, they handle much better in waves, the boat is solid and just spent almost $20000 on this rig, and spent 3 weeks installing all the extras I wanted on it. Replacing the hull isn’t an option, my next option would be to sell the gator tail and buy a jet outboard (Yamaha 60) with power jack plate, before I would sell the boat.


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Yeah, for my boat and my hull, the three blades have much more tiller torque. The two blades are easy to drive.

The opinions I have on how props work with this motor is greatly impacted by the fact that I'm running a very light crawfish skiff. Most people don't run crawfish skiffs, so the way my motor performs with certain props is greatly impacted by the Type of hull I'm running. You guys may have different experiences or opposite experiences as I do with different props


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Last boat which was a mod v lighter obviously, with a 27 Mud Buddy mini could get up on plane no issues with four full grown men, then another time with my wife 3 kids (kids 3,5,13) and my daughters friend. I’m not being unrealistic, this boat is only 12” wider and 400 lbs more, and I have 13 more horsepower (16 if you count the fact one gatortail rep said they dyno at 43). There has to be a way to make this work, hole shot was only mediocre even when boat was completely empty. Just 12 gallon tank battery and myself.


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How do I get ahold of this Baggy Guy, what is his business called? Wouldn’t mind having him work the big blade prop I bought.


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With the 27 with 4 guys we would only travel around 14-16 but at least we were on plane and not plowing. Same when I was with my family weren’t breaking doors records but on plane and not plowing.


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Still have the 27 trying to sell it. Lol


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