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Duck-killa
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:48 pm Posts: 154 Location: Cut Off, LA
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 GTR electical
Okay so I have 2 issues here. First issue is the trim, I have a 2010 do I have old style trim with the relays. It is cutting in an out and now will only work sometimes when I rev the motor up, and it keeps popping the 25 amp fuse so I put a 30 amp and it is just popping them too. I changed the trim switch becuase I thought that might have been it but that's a no go, and I changed all the connections on the back of it, still nothing, put a new online fuse holder and changed the connection to the starter, and put w new connection on the ground wire for the trim on the motor, still nothing. I am dead in the water on this one, any info ?
Second problem. So my battery died a few days ago and I got info to test the battery and then test the positive and negative on the motor to see if it's putting out. I have a non CDI motor so I know it won't charge unless going over 2 k rpms, will I got it over 2 k and it was showing 0.55 on the multimeter. Well I was told it wasent the voltage meter cause it was reading something, and I went ahead and returned the battery and got a new one. I hooked it up today and of course since it's only 1 day old it is showing 12.56 volts at a stand still, but I read on here that when you rev the motor up to around 3600 k rpms, the voltage on the battery is showing 12.56, it is staying the same and I read at that rpm it should be showing around 14 volts, is this correct ? And since the battery voltage is staying the same, the motor isn't charging it ? Could I be the voltage regulator ?
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: GTR electical
Could be the regulator or the stator. Easy to test, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna type it on my phone lol. One day I'll sit at a computer and type the instructions for a sticky. Lmao. Pm sent
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mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: GTR electical
It costs a little scratch, but your best bet is to get a new switch from gator tail that will do away with the relays. Those things are junk. I would recommend biting the bullet and getting the new control box for the tiller handle and doing away with all the other bs. Also, yeah. You need to be showing over 13 volts on a meter when you are revving the motor if it's charging.
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Duck-killa
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:48 pm Posts: 154 Location: Cut Off, LA
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 Re: GTR electical
Well Mississippi I'm just looking for it to get fixed at the moment and not last forever becuase I plan on going get my motor converted to the new trim unit around the spilt for duck season, but I heard the relays are junk from many people
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mizzippi jb
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: GTR electical
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
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Duck-killa
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:48 pm Posts: 154 Location: Cut Off, LA
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 Re: GTR electical
I gotcha I gotcha, I don't even know if I have relays, I have 4 wires on the back of my trim switch, blue, red, green and brown The red runs to the inline fuse The brown is a ground And the blue and green run are spliced into a black and wire running into the trim motor So is this the relay trim or there something good about that, I'm dead on the water about the whole trim situation haha
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richard nagon
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Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:35 pm Posts: 537
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 Re: GTR electical
Check your flat plug on your regulator. To see if it has gotten hot and burnt out. The relays should be in clear view. That old trim unit was slow. Cold weather killed it.
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Duck-killa
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:48 pm Posts: 154 Location: Cut Off, LA
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 Re: GTR electical
it's acutally slower than watching paint dry but will check plug
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ibfishinb
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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:44 pm Posts: 630
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 Re: GTR electical
Mine has worked sporadically in the past. I found a broken crimp on wire connector to be the culprit..... twice.
I went ahead and rebuilt my old trim unit and that has helped it perform better as well.
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| Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:24 pm |
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Duck-killa
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:48 pm Posts: 154 Location: Cut Off, LA
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 Re: GTR electical
So update on my motor problem, it was my stator, shout out to Russ for talking me threw that so 1 problem down
And update on the trim, I have checked all the wires, changed the trim switch, changed all the connections on the back of the switch, changed the ground connection, changed the connections were the blue and white connect and where the black and green wire connect, those wires run directly only the trim motor, there are no relays, I'm thinking the guy I bought it from had the trim updated, there is power where the wires run into the trim motor, I'm lost here, is my acutal trim motor out ?
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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 Re: GTR electical
With all the shit you've been having with that thang, tell that guy you want a refund! 
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krazo
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Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:44 pm Posts: 667 Location: SE Bama
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 Re: GTR electical
Cut the two wires going to your trim loose from your switch. Touch them straight to the battery. This will tell you if its your switch, wiring, or motor. Reverse the wires on the battery to make the trim reverse.
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Duck-killa
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:48 pm Posts: 154 Location: Cut Off, LA
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 Re: GTR electical
Cut the black and white wire and put them on the battery and put them reversed, no go, so I'm guessing the trim motor is shot, well guess it's time to man up and drop 550 on the new unit
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krazo
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Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:44 pm Posts: 667 Location: SE Bama
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The new trim operates better anyway.
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: GTR electical
If it is the OLD style CMC trim a lot of time the motor shaft o rings let oil into the motor housing and that stops it from working. New seals and cleaning out the housing will get you back going. Let me know if I can help you out. I have rebuilt a few.
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krazo
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Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:44 pm Posts: 667 Location: SE Bama
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krazo
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Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:44 pm Posts: 667 Location: SE Bama
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ibfishinb
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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:44 pm Posts: 630
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Not all that difficult. Just tedious.
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Duck-killa
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:48 pm Posts: 154 Location: Cut Off, LA
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 Re: GTR electical
 Yea thanks for all the help guys, I would do that if i were looking to go a cheap route but I'm really trying to put a lot of new parts on this motor, and their new trim unit is badass compared to the old slow one that I have so I figure it's time for the upgrade
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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 Re: GTR electical
Cant hide money! 
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debo
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Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:05 pm Posts: 143 Location: Southeast, LA
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 Re: GTR electical
Since you'll are on the subject can the new trim unit motor be dissasembled? Mine has been working on and off. I have to tap the motor and itll work for a while again. What could that be?
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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debo
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Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:05 pm Posts: 143 Location: Southeast, LA
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When it finally stops working I may attempt to take it apart being I'll have to buy a new one. Hate to cause more by tearing it apart. If I mess it up then I had to buy a new one anyways.
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