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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
gen1 Prodrive 36 HP (stage 2)
I went fishing couple days ago made a run up river (maybe 1 mile) when I stopped I smelled my clutch. made another float down river and a storm blew in so we made a quick run back to boat ramp. when I got to ramp I pushed PTO switch in to disengage prop. prop wouldn't disengage. I turned the motor off not thinking (should have trimmed the motor out of water) and when I got ready to load, I couldn't start to motor (im assuming it was because it was turning the prop as the motor would turn over.) I smelled my cutch again while trying to load.
the PTO switch is fairly new, along with the key switch and trim switch. I bought a new PTO switch yesterday in hopes it was a simple fix but didn't solve my problems.
I tried unplugging the wire from clutch thinking that might free things up, still nothing.
im wondering if any of you guys have ever had something like this or know anything to check. im thinking it may be something in the wiring harness. I do know that im going to order a new wiring harness because mine is in pretty rough shape. I have been meaning to do this for a while but keep putting it off. (about a month ago I had a hard time getting motor to turn over. I didn't think much about due to battery cable being a little rusty. no issues since until now.)
thanks for any help guys!!
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:13 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Your clutch is fried.
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:41 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Unplug the two wire connector going to your clutch. This removes any power to engage the magnets. If it still turns the prop while cranking, your clutch is gone.
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:43 pm |
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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
I was afraid of that news... Is there anything in particular that causes it? Things seemed fine until last week as far as smelling my clutch.
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:51 pm |
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carpkiller
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
I was searching the forum before I posted my problem and found a link to an aftermarket clutch. xtream powersports or something like that.. it claimed to be a performace clutch, im assuming that it would hold more torque, but would it give you less power terrain loss where they have "performance bearings". the only info i read was just the description on Amazon. any body have better results?
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:03 pm |
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Brokeknee
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Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:32 pm Posts: 261
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
The only thing performance about them is the high temp bearing. I've had one on my gen2 prodrive for almost 100 hours with no issues so far.
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:00 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Got one on mine right now....don't know the hours....but, it has 16 gallons of gas burned with it.
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:42 am |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Same here, Bout 190 bucks
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:05 pm |
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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
I guess ill be ordering one Monday along with a new wiring harness. oh boy lol
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:03 pm |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:08 pm |
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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
I just wish it would have happened a couple months ago LOL I just bought a house and got married last month. living the life of a poor man now LMAO!!!!!
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:52 pm |
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:08 pm |
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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
He did too, but somehow we went over budget. Lol I used to buy a gun every month, now I'm buying lamps and curtains I wish I would have just broke down and went EFI before I got hitched lol
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Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:08 am |
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Ehh, you'll be fine. Those Lower units are almost bullet proof. I'll be pulling mine apart this morning. Its just part of it pal
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Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:10 am |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Bryce, you certain you need a new wiring harness? When mine went out, just needed a new PTO switch and a new fuse.
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:38 pm |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
I don't need a wiring harness Blue But I damn near need anything else for my prodrive
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:56 pm |
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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Quick update, finally had an off day to put on the new clutch I ordered from Xtreme. I had to get a little creative using a utility trailer with a cherry picker to lift the power head off but things went well. Hardest part about mine was trying to get new clutch on. I should have know when my old one basically fell off that I was in for some trouble (nothing I do is ever quick and easy.....something ALWAYS happens). I finally took some 220 grit and cleaned the shaft up and it slid on like a champ. I changed lower unit oil and found a little problem. Oil had a metal sheen to it. I flushed as much of the old out as I could, gonna keep an eye on it. Not sure how bad things are it I don't think it's too serious atm. Anywho, thanks guys for the help! Maiden voyage in the morning to check things out......and hit up some smallies.
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:34 pm |
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banded-mallard
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:24 am |
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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Yeah I'm not really worried about it yet. I had a mustang back in the day with a procharger on it. First time I changed the oil in it i almost puked. Magnetic plug was full of tiny shavings, but guy from favtory said it was completely normal. Took it out this morning and it ran like a top. Best it's ran in a while!! 24mph up river with gas tank 2 27dcms and a trolling motor in front.... and a 190lb guy sitting on front deck. I was tickled!
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:17 pm |
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banded-mallard
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
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Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:03 am |
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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
When I first got it I was getting 32mph. But that was an empty boat with just me, battery and gas tank in back. When I moved gas tank up front and then added trolling motor and 2 batteries it killed it. With me just me the way it sits now, I'm lucky to hit 27-28. My prop is a little wore but not enough to justify $$ to replace yet. But my boat is a freaking tank. 3/16 bottom. 1/8 Welded floor. 24" sides...6" catwalks. It's heavy mother. It weighs more than my 285 stratos I used to have.
I wish it was faster but I don't see it happening. Bare empty speed was great but everybody is gonna haul stuff in their boat. I gotta have a trolling motor lol it's saved me a few times on getting vack to ramp... and saved a lot of money getting crank baits outa trees lol
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Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:39 am |
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Russ
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Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
I'm curious what a compression test and a leakdown test would show. I can load 4 people and hunting gear and hit 27. It's a confirmable, repeatable, provable speed. I don't have a heavy boat, but 3 additional people, gear, and my boat don't weigh less than your boat with you. Granted, I have what would effectively be a stage 3, but there isn't a huge difference in capabilities between a 2 and a 3.
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Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:37 am |
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banded-mallard
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Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:38 pm |
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carpkiller
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Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am Posts: 275 Location: Church Hill TN
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
What's your speeds?
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Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:58 am |
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banded-mallard
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Re: Prodrive PTO stuck help please!
Faster than that. But I have a Kawi stage 2 with a 14p prop. I have blipped 35.6, but can hold 34 at about 4800 rpms. Most of the belt driven machines will be faster on top due to pulley ratio changes, but I wanted more load carry capacity. The biproductwas speed.
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Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:19 am |
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