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greg f
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 pm Posts: 490 Location: Mexifornia
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 Battery
For a 36 PD could a larger motorcycle battery be used to start the motor? I was wondering cause it's alot less weight to carry than a standard deep cycle marine battery.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:00 am |
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TURBODRIVE
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:27 am Posts: 1612
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 Re: Battery
get a stinger
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:05 am |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: Battery
It would make a great back up, other than that I wouldn't trust it.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:43 am |
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ibfishin
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Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:20 pm Posts: 1127 Location: Okeechobee, FL
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I am trying to decide what size batteries I need as well. Trying to go as light a possible without breaking the bank. Probably going with Deka brand.
One will be for engine, bilge, and running lights.
The other will be for stereo, swamp lights, winch.
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deltaduckmaster
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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I run the smallest car battery Walmart has, have had no issues
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Tenpoint
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Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:22 pm Posts: 2029 Location: Patterson LA
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:26 pm |
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greg f
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 pm Posts: 490 Location: Mexifornia
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 Re: Battery
Thanks guys....Appreciate the input.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:03 pm |
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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I've run Sam's club garden tractor batteries for years with no problems. On long trips I do take a spare battery because I'm old and forgetful. If you leave a key or bilge pump on overnight it won't matter much what size your main battery is and you will be happy you have a spare. I also carry a cheap set of jumper cables in my "possibles" box. So far I've only needed them to start others, but my chance is coming.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:48 am |
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:30 am |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Battery
Different charging systems.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:34 am |
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Will
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O, can you tell me what the difference is? I'm curious now...
Is it that the motorcyle recovers the charge at a faster rate?
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:46 am |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Battery
I'm not familiar with the charging system on a bike, but know for certain it is different than the one we have on our engines. The cdi motors have a decent charging system 20a at idle on up to 50a at full output. The older engines have no output at idle and I think around 20a at full output. I believe the stator on a bike is inside the block, where ours is mounted outside under the flywheel, but I am not familiar with their output ratings.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:52 am |
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deltaduckmaster
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The clutch alone draws 20 amps!! So if your idling alot and using trim auto reverse it can draw a battery!!
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:54 am |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:57 am |
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deltaduckmaster
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If I remember right Hoyt told me that but I could be wrong.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:59 am |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Battery
I'd go put a meter on mine, but don't really want to now. Over 10amps will pop my meter. lol I've been told somewhere in the 4-10 range. 20amps is a pretty hefty draw.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:03 pm |
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russellm454
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Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:23 pm Posts: 216
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Actually I think the charging systems on a H-D are very simular to that of a MM V-Twin. This article explains the H-D charging system. http://www.harleyhowto.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338I do however think that the H-D charging system may have a higher amperage output than that on a MM. I just put a new battery on my Fatboy and you would be amazed at the price. $87 and that was the cheapest one I could find. One from Harley is around $125+ so I'm not sure that there is any cost savings going with a motorcycle battery, weight savings yes. Russ
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greg f
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 pm Posts: 490 Location: Mexifornia
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The compression on alot of custom harleys is way more than a MM. My friend has a BMW touring bike and that thing has everything imaginable on it.....sat radio, cd player, air suspension, ect, so I figured it might work on a MM.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:48 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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It is 20 amps.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:55 pm |
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cb5331
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:17 pm |
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greg f
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 Re: Battery
Would a smaller battery have enough power to turn the motor over.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:47 pm |
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cb5331
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:52 pm |
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POKER1
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ibfishin
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So it sounds like I should get a small auto starting battery for the motor and a small deep cycle for the accessories?
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Will
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UNCLE-J
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Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:26 am Posts: 10388 Location: S-Ville, LA
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deltaduckmaster
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I text Hoyt to make sure that is what he told me !! 20 amps
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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http://www.messicks.com/Articles/Fixing ... lutch.aspxSecond paragraph. Seems like they draw aboout 3.5 amps ISh
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MaXXis85
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http://www.ganos.com/electricclutchtesting.pdfAnother link, this one is showing about 4 amps of current draw.
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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CaptCameltoe
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Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:51 pm Posts: 243 Location: Jeanerette La
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GD's don't have those clutch drainin the battery problems at all..........jus sayin 
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Snowbird
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Crook Chene
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I have two batteries. I keep a small lawn mower battery in the bow for a backup.
My engine burned a plug and quit charging my battery and eventually drained it. I was lucky because I was very close to my camp.
the day before I was in lillies two feet high about two miles from the nearest bayou and almost turned my motor off several times while scouting for ducks, glad I didn't- I would have been like chuck!
always bring a spare.
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Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:58 pm |
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greg f
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 pm Posts: 490 Location: Mexifornia
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Thanks for the input guys
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Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:06 pm |
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keys1222
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Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:42 pm Posts: 321 Location: Salina, KS
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i have a deep cycle battery thats the size of a tractor battery. might be something to look into
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Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:54 pm |
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Chico80x
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:55 am Posts: 743 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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I'm running a Group 24 hybrid marine Deep Cell/ Cranking battery from auto zone that's been great. I've had a set for 3 years in my offshore boat that are still perfect.
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JIMMY W
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Get yourself a Optima 
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MaXXis85
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JIMMY W
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Chico80x
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