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GBB
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Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 28 Location: Georgia
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 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Here' the skinny. Kohler command 25hp mud buddy longtail. Motor idles great and runs great for the first 3 or 4 mins then it looses power and you can hear an audible pah pah pah out of the exhaust. Replaced plugs and both coils thinking it was a firing issue but now I'm not sure. With the engine warm and running, you can pull either plug wire and 50% of the time it will kill the engine. With the engine warm, the exhaust temp coming out of the left head is roughly 500 degrees and the right side is 350. Any insight on what's going on or recommendations ?
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:37 am |
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pokey79
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:50 pm Posts: 2282 Location: Circumcised, Louisiana
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Does that motor have the S.A.M. on it a little black box mounted on the number 1 side on the plastic cover? And if u own a timing light i can explain to u how to check the sam!!! and did u set the air gap on the new coils ? just give me ur email and i will send u a file on how to check all ur elecrtrical system!!!!
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:48 am |
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GBB
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 28 Location: Georgia
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Yep we have a sam. My email is williams_dusty@hotmail.com. thanks !
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:57 am |
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postalpaul
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1935 Location: Kaufman- TEXAS
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Have u done a compression check???
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:39 am |
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GBB
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Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 28 Location: Georgia
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Got 150 in both cylinders.
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:30 am |
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postalpaul
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1935 Location: Kaufman- TEXAS
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Check ur valve push rods see if they are bent. It's a weird thought I know
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:36 pm |
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GBB
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 28 Location: Georgia
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Will do. Going to tear into it Sunday if the rain let's up.....
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:40 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Sounds like coils to me...Or sam module. Only causes problem once it's hot right?
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:55 pm |
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GBB
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 28 Location: Georgia
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Coils have been replaced and yep, only when it is hot.
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:53 pm |
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pokey79
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:50 pm Posts: 2282 Location: Circumcised, Louisiana
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
email sent and u should enjoy that pdf cause it gives u all the test for anything wrong with that motor!!!!!!!!!
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:05 pm |
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GBB
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Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 28 Location: Georgia
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Got it, thanks for the help !
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:06 pm |
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postalpaul
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1935 Location: Kaufman- TEXAS
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Pokey---would you wanna share that PDF again??
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:43 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:46 pm |
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pokey79
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:50 pm Posts: 2282 Location: Circumcised, Louisiana
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
cant send it to u on here!!! I dont mind sendin it to u but i need ur email
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Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:39 am |
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postalpaul
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1935 Location: Kaufman- TEXAS
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Make any head way on this????
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Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:15 am |
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GBB
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 28 Location: Georgia
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Everything has checked out good until we did a leak down check on the cylinder. Going to pull it tomorrow and go from there.
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Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:25 pm |
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pokey79
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:50 pm Posts: 2282 Location: Circumcised, Louisiana
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Well what did the leak down test tell u?
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Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:33 am |
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GBB
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Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 28 Location: Georgia
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 Re: 25 kohler looses power when hot.
Found the compression check to be good but the cylinder would leak down. Took the cylinder off and found a stuck lifter. Put it back together and everything seems to be running fine.[url][/url]
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:57 pm |
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