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Short On Cache
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:02 pm Posts: 289
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 Whats next?
I have a 36 PD with IM heads, Mikuni Carb and BPS exhaust. Whats the next mod you guys think I need? Wanna carry a little more load.
_________________ The nation that makes great distinction between its scholars and warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.-Thucydides It is the Soldier that salutes the flag, Serves beneath the flag, Who's coffin is draped with the flag and allows the protestor to burn the flag.-Unknown Greater love has no other than this that he lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:39 am |
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Team Camo
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: Whats next?
Cam
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WestEndAngler
MMT Moderator
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: Whats next?
x2
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BoatDR
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 6:43 am Posts: 1604
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 Re: Whats next?
Being that you have all BPS external parts on your motor already, I would match up the internals with BPS parts too, and there are only 5 items left that they offer. Pistons, connecting rods, cam, push rods, and rocker arms.
My personal opinion, if you are going to go thru the trouble of removing the block from the PD frame, and opening it up, you may as well do all 5 items. However it is costly, and more people opt to only do a cam (and possibly rockers arms) first.
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fowl habbit
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:52 pm Posts: 1130 Location: THE ONE AND ONLY BUFFALO COUNTY
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 Re: Whats next?
Nothin against BPS i have alot of their mods in my motor but I went with EVT 493f cam and its a torque monster. If you want a cam that gets ya up on plane fast and still holds top end I highly recommend it.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:55 am |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:59 am |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:01 pm |
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Short On Cache
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:02 pm Posts: 289
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 Re: Whats next?
Good info guys. I kinda thought that would be the answer. I am glad to hear that rockers and lifters arent mandatory. I will prob end up with the evt.
_________________ The nation that makes great distinction between its scholars and warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.-Thucydides It is the Soldier that salutes the flag, Serves beneath the flag, Who's coffin is draped with the flag and allows the protestor to burn the flag.-Unknown Greater love has no other than this that he lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:04 pm |
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WestEndAngler
MMT Moderator
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: Whats next?
I have BPS cam & it works well. I'd be interested to see what difference EVT, Hoyt's etc would have on my motor... Hate to jack a thread maybe someone can start a new one to explain it to me I'm not the sharpest one when it comes to internal workings of motor etc.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:12 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:12 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:13 pm |
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WestEndAngler
MMT Moderator
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: Whats next?
Thanks for the information Craig.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:16 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: Whats next?
I got your cam sittin right here in my office if you want it!
EVT for a 36 PD. maby 2 hrs max on it.
$200 shipped $150 come and get it.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:24 pm |
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Short On Cache
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:02 pm Posts: 289
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 Re: Whats next?
Brinkleydog, PM sent
_________________ The nation that makes great distinction between its scholars and warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.-Thucydides It is the Soldier that salutes the flag, Serves beneath the flag, Who's coffin is draped with the flag and allows the protestor to burn the flag.-Unknown Greater love has no other than this that he lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:31 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Whats next?
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:34 pm |
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garrettpearce
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 1436 Location: down da bayou
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 Re: Whats next?
Push rods and rockers are a waste of money. And DO NOT listen to anyone that claims you can just "drop" in a set of pistons on a worn engine!![/quote] explain about the pistons
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:04 pm |
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BoatDR
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 6:43 am Posts: 1604
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Whats next?
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:02 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: Whats next?
_________________ 20 x 54 with 9/16 bottom powered by Twin BLACK CHICKS with FPR
The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on it daily to meet their quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. Go here and click on the "donate a mammogram". This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate mammogram in exchange for advertising.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:51 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: Whats next?
think its the same one Ricky had if that helps you figure it out...no marking on the cam that i know of.
_________________ 20 x 54 with 9/16 bottom powered by Twin BLACK CHICKS with FPR
The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on it daily to meet their quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. Go here and click on the "donate a mammogram". This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate mammogram in exchange for advertising.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:52 pm |
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drake1
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:57 am Posts: 659
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richard nagon
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:35 pm Posts: 537
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 Re: Whats next?
i like u know little about these engines. but before i jumped on a certain product recommended by a person. have them explain to u why a certain cam is better than another. have them explain to u the changes to the valve train geometry when u go with a higher lift cam. and why u don't have to change any of your componets such as rocker arms and such. ask about rocker arm ratio. what ever that means. ask about cam lift and duration at .050 and .200 degres before and after. ask them if u should degree in your cam at installation time. ask them if a welded on cam is as good as a virgin billet cam. then if i was you i would do a search on bing. on cams -rocker arms-valve springs-ask the boyes at isky or herbert cams these same questions. so that you arn't more short on cash
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:39 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: Whats next?
_________________ 20 x 54 with 9/16 bottom powered by Twin BLACK CHICKS with FPR
The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on it daily to meet their quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. Go here and click on the "donate a mammogram". This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate mammogram in exchange for advertising.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:45 pm |
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pooldoo73
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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 Re: Whats next?
Sounds like u might need 2 sell that cam wif a disclaimer. 2 engines in less than a day, WOW. Was it the cam r a crappy build job? I don't want one of those blockbuster cams.
_________________ 18'x54"CC Hanko/ 36PD
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:26 am |
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drake1
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:57 am Posts: 659
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 Re: Whats next?
Like I said, the heavy barge, 2000 bolt heads from the poly and more aggressive props had the engines tounge hanging out all the time. On top of that the Briggs blocks are just crap. As far as going further out of business, well if I don't get calls or see post from phukn cry babies like you then good. Just makes my life easier. Guess Prodrive will get the blame when one of your black bitches craps out.
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:04 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Whats next?
I can feel the love.
"Insert gay tapatalk signature here"
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:13 am |
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: Whats next?
do your heads, carb, and exhaust and intake, stay away from the cams and you'll get the life that your motor is suppose to live. 140 hrs on my motor and mods were done at 30 hrs. and when its on the water i don't baby it when i get in the bad stuff. Only thing i have changed is prop and trim. Other than that GATOR_TAIL LIFER RIGHT HERE hahahahahaha lmao
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garrettpearce
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 1436 Location: down da bayou
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 Re: Whats next?
put the cam you wont regret it just dont get a big ass one
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: Whats next?
Ok I retract my cam statement i agree with Garrett!
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garrettpearce
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 1436 Location: down da bayou
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 Re: Whats next?
there are people that want to be the one thats the hardest on their motors but i have people that can say man ive never seen anyone harder on a motor and i have a stage 1 with hoyts cam and never had a problem with about 400 hours on it in the last couple months
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:06 am |
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ibfishin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:20 pm Posts: 1127 Location: Okeechobee, FL
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 Re: Whats next?
I'm gonna order a GTR next week. I'm on the fence about staying stock, Stage 1, or Stage 2. The boat will be an 18x50 huntdeck .125 and .100. Normal load will be will be 380 pounds (2 hunters) and sometimes 2 kids (100 pounds total), normal gear and 4-5 dozen dekes. I don't want to regret not going with the Hoyt warrantied mods, but don't want a motor to crap out at 100 hours either (I'm about 14 hour from Hoyt for warranty work). Decisions... Decisions...
_________________ 35 GTR pushing an 18' Alumitech Custom
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:39 am |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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Reliability won't be affected with a stage 1 or 2. Don't get me wrong, chit happens...just the stage 1 and 2 are very reliable and for the most part trouble free.
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:44 am |
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: Whats next?
^^^^^X2 
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:22 am |
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WestEndAngler
MMT Moderator
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: Whats next?
60 hours on my mods & I run 3/4 throttle on most long runs & when I need to I get after it, well its there! The cam really woke up my engine the exhaust went from mellow to mean! 
_________________ GTB 1860 w/ 2019 GTR40XD-HO
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:26 am |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: Whats next?
Factory cams suck and can fail. Hoyt's cam idles smoother, give much more torque, and I have NEVER heard of one of his cams failing.
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Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:34 pm |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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WestEndAngler
MMT Moderator
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: Whats next?
those look like the size push rods I have...are those stock or just a little beefier than stock?
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Whats next?
Those are stock. JC when did that happen?
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quackconsumer
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