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Author: | greg f [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Battery |
For a 36 PD could a larger motorcycle battery be used to start the motor? I was wondering cause it's alot less weight to carry than a standard deep cycle marine battery. |
Author: | TURBODRIVE [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
get a stinger |
Author: | bayouboy [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
It would make a great back up, other than that I wouldn't trust it. |
Author: | ibfishin [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
I am trying to decide what size batteries I need as well. Trying to go as light a possible without breaking the bank. Probably going with Deka brand. One will be for engine, bilge, and running lights. The other will be for stereo, swamp lights, winch. |
Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Battery |
I run the smallest car battery Walmart has, have had no issues |
Author: | Tenpoint [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:26 pm ] |
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Author: | greg f [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
Thanks guys....Appreciate the input. |
Author: | stualaska [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
I've run Sam's club garden tractor batteries for years with no problems. On long trips I do take a spare battery because I'm old and forgetful. If you leave a key or bilge pump on overnight it won't matter much what size your main battery is and you will be happy you have a spare. I also carry a cheap set of jumper cables in my "possibles" box. So far I've only needed them to start others, but my chance is coming. |
Author: | Will [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:30 am ] |
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Author: | cb5331 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
Different charging systems. |
Author: | Will [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
O, can you tell me what the difference is? I'm curious now... Is it that the motorcyle recovers the charge at a faster rate? |
Author: | cb5331 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
I'm not familiar with the charging system on a bike, but know for certain it is different than the one we have on our engines. The cdi motors have a decent charging system 20a at idle on up to 50a at full output. The older engines have no output at idle and I think around 20a at full output. I believe the stator on a bike is inside the block, where ours is mounted outside under the flywheel, but I am not familiar with their output ratings. |
Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Battery |
The clutch alone draws 20 amps!! So if your idling alot and using trim auto reverse it can draw a battery!! |
Author: | cb5331 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:57 am ] |
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Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:59 am ] |
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If I remember right Hoyt told me that but I could be wrong. |
Author: | cb5331 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
I'd go put a meter on mine, but don't really want to now. Over 10amps will pop my meter. lol I've been told somewhere in the 4-10 range. 20amps is a pretty hefty draw. |
Author: | russellm454 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
Actually I think the charging systems on a H-D are very simular to that of a MM V-Twin. This article explains the H-D charging system. http://www.harleyhowto.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338 I do however think that the H-D charging system may have a higher amperage output than that on a MM. I just put a new battery on my Fatboy and you would be amazed at the price. $87 and that was the cheapest one I could find. One from Harley is around $125+ so I'm not sure that there is any cost savings going with a motorcycle battery, weight savings yes. Russ |
Author: | greg f [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
The compression on alot of custom harleys is way more than a MM. My friend has a BMW touring bike and that thing has everything imaginable on it.....sat radio, cd player, air suspension, ect, so I figured it might work on a MM. |
Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Battery |
It is 20 amps. |
Author: | cb5331 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:17 pm ] |
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Author: | greg f [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
Would a smaller battery have enough power to turn the motor over. |
Author: | cb5331 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:52 pm ] |
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Author: | POKER1 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:02 pm ] |
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Author: | ibfishin [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
So it sounds like I should get a small auto starting battery for the motor and a small deep cycle for the accessories? |
Author: | Will [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:17 am ] |
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Author: | UNCLE-J [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:21 am ] |
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Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Battery |
I text Hoyt to make sure that is what he told me !! 20 amps |
Author: | MaXXis85 [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
http://www.messicks.com/Articles/Fixing ... lutch.aspx Second paragraph. Seems like they draw aboout 3.5 amps ISh |
Author: | MaXXis85 [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
http://www.ganos.com/electricclutchtesting.pdf Another link, this one is showing about 4 amps of current draw. |
Author: | cb5331 [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:15 am ] |
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Author: | CaptCameltoe [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:43 pm ] |
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GD's don't have those clutch drainin the battery problems at all..........jus sayin ![]() |
Author: | Snowbird [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:43 am ] |
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Author: | Crook Chene [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
I have two batteries. I keep a small lawn mower battery in the bow for a backup. My engine burned a plug and quit charging my battery and eventually drained it. I was lucky because I was very close to my camp. the day before I was in lillies two feet high about two miles from the nearest bayou and almost turned my motor off several times while scouting for ducks, glad I didn't- I would have been like chuck! always bring a spare. |
Author: | greg f [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
Thanks for the input guys |
Author: | keys1222 [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
i have a deep cycle battery thats the size of a tractor battery. might be something to look into |
Author: | Chico80x [ Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
I'm running a Group 24 hybrid marine Deep Cell/ Cranking battery from auto zone that's been great. I've had a set for 3 years in my offshore boat that are still perfect. |
Author: | JIMMY W [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Battery |
Get yourself a Optima ![]() |
Author: | MaXXis85 [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:17 am ] |
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Author: | JIMMY W [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:43 pm ] |
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Author: | Chico80x [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:36 pm ] |
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