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Author:  belly_up [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:41 pm ]
Post subject:  starting issues

36pd non cdi with a single mikuni and mm muffler

The motor is starting to be hard to start. I have to hold down the key for a long time and it will cough a couple times and shoot a mist of gas out of the carb which sometimes ignites causing a backfire.

It will start but takes a while.

Any ideas on the issue?

Author:  Wilson [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:35 pm ]
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Is the starter still turning it fast enough or has it gotten slower?

Author:  Robn1020 [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:38 pm ]
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It may be your coils! Sounds like what i went through. One minute it would start right up. The next i had backfire out carb and muffler and it wouldn't turn over. New set of coils and it starts first turn.

Author:  T-Bubba [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:58 pm ]
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check the valves

Author:  cb5331 [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:59 pm ]
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Author:  whytry85 [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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Sounds like a rev limiter to me.... Happened to mine when it got drenched. Disconnect it and see if it helps....

Author:  deadbird8 [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:50 am ]
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Agree on checking the valve lash, spitting back through the intake sounds like they aren't opening at the right times.

Also check battery and connections for good connection- seen them crank for minutes and not start if its not cranking just fast enough.

Author:  belly_up [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  starting issues

Checked the valve lash and all seemed good...right at.005.

Rev limiter is disconnected.

Starter spins fast.


I guess I can go back one more time and check the valve lash to be 100% positive. What could cause that mist of gas to be coming out the carb?

Author:  dfou [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:19 am ]
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Could it be a plug wire grounding somewhere or bad coil? Sounds similar to what mine did when my plug wires were grounding out

Author:  deadbird8 [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:51 am ]
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Author:  odass [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:06 am ]
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Would low oil pressure have this effect. Maybe loading up cuz its not firing. Then backfiring? Idk just a thought.but I guess that may be a problem more after its warmed up?

Author:  deadbird8 [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:13 pm ]
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Author:  bayouboy [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:28 pm ]
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How does it run once it fires up?

Author:  belly_up [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:32 pm ]
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It runs great once its up and running. It dies a lot at idle though.

We hauled six guys and gear all hunting season and it did great on plane.

I had this issue before but it was because the valve lash was way out. I fixed that and it ran perfect for about 6 months. I will run a leak down test but I really hope that it comes out ok.

What wire do i need to pull for the oil sensor just so I can rule it out?

Author:  deadbird8 [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:13 am ]
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If you have an oil pressure sensor, its screwed into the side of the block between oil filter and crank case. If you don't have one, there's a plug there. You just disconnect the spade connector ensuring it doesn't ground out.

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