hoyt stands behind his work if your friend takes it back to hoyt he is more than capable to fix it. and you can ask anyone on here hoyts or calen's engine service(same mods) are very reliable
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
looking to mod an engine but whats the difference between the mods parts ,hp, etc????? |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
Depends who does the work. |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
iam going to do the work my self ive been working on briggs engines for 30 yrs |
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| Author: | Team Camo [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
Just add a cam, heads, & exhaust, then call it done. Sent by carrier pigeon. |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
Stage 1,2,3...don't really mean anything. Everyone has their own recipe. HP ratings are bogus unless the engine has actually been put on a dyno. X2 on Camo. Lots of folks happy with that combo. |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
what kind of hp gain could i expect on a 35 by adding a carb ,heads ,cam,rocker rollers,an exhaust |
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| Author: | quackconsumer [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:12 pm ] |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:31 pm ] |
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i see you got a stage 1 what parts did you change out an were did you get them at so far the only place i can find them is at iron mountain |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
you can port&polish the stock heads nad theres a few places you can get cams from but one of the best i've seen on here is hoyt's cam. as far as the exhaust goes you can get one from Backwater performance systems and marshmellow exhuast |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:45 pm ] |
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were do you find those hoyt parts i looked an dont see a wed site |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:55 pm ] |
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hoyt is the main engine guy at gator tail(call gator tail and ask for hoyt), his camprovides low and mid range power as well as carrying a hell of a load get in touch with hoyt and he can tell you all you need to know on his stage 1(heads,cam ,exhuast) |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:19 pm ] |
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ok thanks |
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| Author: | quackconsumer [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:23 pm ] |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:30 pm ] |
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is this the guy who does the preformance work at gator tail ive got a friend who had one modified over there an he cant keep it running nothing but problems |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
if someone has ever had a problem wit his mods he aint on here. delta duck master's cousin(i think) has his old skiff wit a gtr stage 1(hoyt's) and it has over 1500 hours on it so they are very reliable. |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
no hes not on here but i know for a fact in the last yr its been back to the shop at lease 5 times an was at another shop just last wk they cant keep head gaskets on it an hes had a few more problems wth it |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
tell him to use aftermarket head gaskets from backwater perfromance systems, setx performance exc. |
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| Author: | Salad Shoota [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:32 am ] |
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Sounds like a problem your boy should take up with Hoyt. I don't know the cat but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't appreciate someone bashing his work on the net. Especially if he ain't here to defend himself or his work. Heard nothing but good things about the dudes work, your boy could just own a "lemon." |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
not bashing anyones work you rite it mite be a lemon but iam just saying what i know |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
hoyt stands behind his work if your friend takes it back to hoyt he is more than capable to fix it. and you can ask anyone on here hoyts or calen's engine service(same mods) are very reliable
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
been back too gator tail 5 times an it cost him money every time |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
so head gaskets leaking theonly problem? that is a problem with all 35 briggs blocks it is very common and i honestly dont think hoyts mods would affect it that much jus get aftermarket perfromance head gaskets(thicker,better seal) and it will help alot |
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| Author: | jodyc1 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
yea thats the only problem he had one more but that was taken care off |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
just tell him to get the "good" head gaskets and that should solve or greatly reduce the problem |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
Scatters, WTF are you talking about? |
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
CB... You don't know? |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:13 pm ] |
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I know that boy is talking about the wrong gaskets. 
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
Hell, you don't even need gaskets it serves the same purpose as decking heads...
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| Author: | quackconsumer [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
I don't see head gaskets leaking. There is little pressure there. Hell I have been reusing the same head gaskets since 2009. |
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
Over time if there is some minor defect or if the head wasn't torqued in the right sequence they can fail. I would definitely not use the same head gaskets over and over. One little tear or a piece missing is all it takes for that compression to start in, then it will erode it away and you have a leaking head gasket. |
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| Author: | scatters boy 316 [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
i guess the head gasket my cousins stock35 mud buddy came with were defective because it leaked like hell and after he turned it into a black death 4500 he said he replace the gasket with a aftermarket one that was supposed to be "better" that motor ha over 300 hrs on it and about 230 of them with the mods and no more leaks so i dont know. anyway jus call hoyt,boatdr,or deadbird8 these people i listed i know have alot of hand on experiance with these motors and they can probably diagnose whats wrong with your friends motor. ,trey |
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| Author: | quackconsumer [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
I thought we were talkin bout the head gaskets at the valve cover. My mistake, carry on. |
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| Author: | muddiejeep [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: whats the difference betwwen stage 1 an stage 2 etc |
head gasket leaking means defective gasket or warped/ improper machined surfaces. |
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| Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:03 pm ] |
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