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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Serious oil question
I have a 25hp kohler that is propane powered and its on a floor scraper. The problem is, the engine is inside a metal cage, and it doesnt get much air flow, and basically gets hot as fuck, especially when tearing out VCT for 4 hours at a time. So i'm about to change the oil in it and was wondering what would be the best oil to put in it because it gets so hot.
Thanks
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:52 am |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: Serious oil question
How about putting an oil cooler on the out side to keep the engine cooler and not worry about what kinda oil you run. Sure your engine would be happier too.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:04 am |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Serious oil question
Synthetics break down at higher temperatures. What I gathered on it a little while back was prolonged exposure to temps above 250 will rapidly breakdown regular oil. Synthetics, I want to say, are good to the 300 or 350 range? So, I'd say any quality synthetic oil is probably fine. Another oil cooler probably wouldn't hurt either long as you can put it somewhere it wont be damaged.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:15 am |
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BoatDR
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Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 6:43 am Posts: 1604
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I've been using amsoil for about 20 years and couldnt be more satisfied. But regardless of what ever brand you decide on, I'd highly recomend a 100% synthetic (and not a semi synthetic).
Per the Kohler, they have hydraulic lifters and can be very sensitive when you get put a heavier weight of oil, but you may want to consider stepping up to a 10 or 15 weigth oil too.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:18 am |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: Serious oil question
Would adding float pods or a huntdeck to the back of the machine make it perform better? What speeds are you getting from it now?
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:22 am |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Serious oil question
An extra oil cooler would be good if I can find a place to put it. I'm about to rent it out for 2 weeks to a guy and he's gonna have it on the roof of a building and it's going to get hot as fawk. Don't want the motor to blow.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:30 am |
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BayouBuster
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Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Serious oil question
Engine in a propane power motor won't "blacken" or get dirty either. Just for future reference, a lot of people don't know that. --- I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?zky2k1
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:59 am |
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GSUrugger
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Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:41 pm Posts: 275
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:48 am |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:10 am |
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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Serious oil question
What kinda mods have you got on it?
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:00 pm |
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Serious oil question
Synthetic oil. Mobil 1 Extended performance is a 100% synthetic. The normal Mobil 1 isnt a true synthetic. They are able to withstand higher heat without shearing.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:11 pm |
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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 Re: Serious oil question
How many scrapes per minute are you getting?
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:12 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:15 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Serious oil question
I cant find a good place for an extra oil cooler, everything is in such tight quarters, and if I mount it on the exterior, its gonna get broken off. I guess just find a fully synthetic 15w-30??
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:17 pm |
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tchauvin
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Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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 Re: Serious oil question
i run rotella,,,
happened to ask the question about this oil to a very well known kawaski engine builder and asked if i can just put that in my atv due to having it laying around all the time caues i use it in my prodrive.
he eyes lit up and he told me that oil is one of the best oils he has come accross and runs that in his race engines
Supposed to have a lot of the good stuff still in it due to not having to meet some emissions bullshit...
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:19 pm |
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med
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:55 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Serious oil question
If you can consistantly get big jobs (1 a month), its plenty to make a living off of. Around here its alot of smaller stuff though.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:00 pm |
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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 Re: Serious oil question
Can you mount the cooler on top and make another, smaller cage for it?
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:25 pm |
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med
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I enjoy working and don't mind using my back and can see where what you do could be very rewarding..... But the pr stuff would get me. I'm not a ppl person at all.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:33 pm |
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T-Bubba
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Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:43 pm Posts: 3958 Location: Centerville, La
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 Re: Serious oil question
Any synthetic diesel oil would work I'd say.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:20 pm |
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bubba777
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Brinkleydog
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: Serious oil question
Is it a Ride on floor scrapper? If so you could mount the extra coolerwith fan attacehd up by your propane tank.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:03 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Serious oil question
Hell I can't even find the factory oil cooler....
Brinkley yea it is. That would be the only place to mount one.
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:54 pm |
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Brinkleydog
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: Serious oil question
if you put a 12v fan moving air over the motor it will help. Get one at least 400 CFM and it will help your motor and electronics.
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