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Eastex
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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GTR bogging down
I was going along and the motor died. I got it cranked back up and it had no power in the water (2600 rpm's) but could pull the motor up and would hit 4300 oow. I drained all the gas and put new, thinking it might have been bad gas. Anybody know what might be the problem?
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:52 pm |
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Eastex
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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GTR bogging down
BTW it is stock motor w/ 30 hrs
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:54 pm |
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Team Camo
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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Re: GTR bogging down
Pull valve covers & check see if popped a push rod out
Assuming the tank vent is open, huh?
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Killer Kallz & ANGLE PORT dealer (409) 720-8949
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:00 pm |
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Eastex
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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Re: GTR bogging down
Yes vent is open. ill pull covers and check
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:06 pm |
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Eastex
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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Re: GTR bogging down
Pulled valve covers today, all is well... I cleaned the carb and took to the lake, and still bogging down. I didn't notice this yesterday, but in reverse the rpm's are up fine. When in forward it idles up like its fine and then just bogs down??
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:51 pm |
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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Re: GTR bogging down
Check to see if you have spark on the plug that the tach wire isn't wrapped around
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:07 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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Re: GTR bogging down
Check the wires coming from clutch for chafing. If it only does this in fwd, then you most likely have a short somewhere between clutch & switch.
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Killer Kallz & ANGLE PORT dealer (409) 720-8949
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:34 pm |
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Eastex
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Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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Re: GTR bogging down
Since last post I have checked everything mentioned and Pete changed the coils. i also called gator tail, and they said it sounds like it was only firing on one cylinder. I took it to a Briggs mechanic on Friday where he cleaned the carb again. He said it was firing on both cylinders but he thinks there is a diode in the wiring harness that runs from each cylinder that might have went out. He wasn't 100% that it has a diode? He said whatever it was is causing the cylinders to be out of time with each other. And btw I changed the spark plugs too just to be sure.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:38 pm |
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dirtybird29+
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Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:03 pm Posts: 393 Location: South Carolina
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GTR bogging down
If its a new motor, leave it with briggs dealer till its fixed. Sounds like a B&S warranty issue unless it is coming from clutch wiring like mentioned earlier.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:50 pm |
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Eastex
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Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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Re: GTR bogging down
Yea it is a brand new motor and is under warranty, I'm just trying to do what I can to keep from having to send the motor to gator tail. I talked to gt and they said no problem they would fix it, but just curious are they quick to fix warranty work?
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:38 pm |
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Will
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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Re: GTR bogging down
Pull a plug wire and crank it. If it runs, plug that one back in and pull the other, crank it, if it runs, its firing on both cylinders, if not....post up and we'll go from there. Easy to tell if both are firing.
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Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:36 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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Re: GTR bogging down
That doesn't always work. If he has a blown head gasket, it would still fire on both sides, but not run on the side with blown gasket. That's why I said leak down test.
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Killer Kallz & ANGLE PORT dealer (409) 720-8949
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Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:13 pm |
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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Re: GTR bogging down
Just a 2 minute easy check that anyone can do to help further the diagnosis... I agree with a blown gasket but could be more simple.
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Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:16 pm |
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DUCK HEARSE
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Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 3161 Location: Alabama
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Re: GTR bogging down
should of bought a DIXIE
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Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:09 pm |
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deadbird8
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Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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Re: GTR bogging down
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:08 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Re: GTR bogging down
Did you roll the motor over with the valve covers off to make sure you have full travel on the valves? Could have rounded a cam lobe..
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:26 am |
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dguidry
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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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Re: GTR bogging down
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:59 am |
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Eastex
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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Re: GTR bogging down
Sorry hadn't been on here in a few days. Thanks for all the replies. I have a buddy taking my motor to gt in the morning, so hopefully i'll have it back soon.
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Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:05 pm |
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Eastex
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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Re: GTR bogging down
I talked to Hoyt today and he said he had to put a new carb on it and the fuel filter came into pieces Somehow... Anyways back in business. Gator tail has awesome customer service too btw the motor was dropped off Monday afternoon and it was fixed today, cant beat that!!
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Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:06 pm |
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SICK BIRD
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Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 22 Location: Louisiana
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Re: GTR bogging down
Mine did the same thing today it was running fine then all of a sudden it boggs down when its out of the water runs fine. Fuel pump is pumping plenty of fuel took spark plugs out one side sound way different than the other with the plug removed like the timing is off, i hope its just a value. You can also put your hand on one side of the exhaust it it doesn't get hot for a while but the other side is hot instantly.
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:01 pm |
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Eastex
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Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm Posts: 221 Location: East Texas
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Re: GTR bogging down
It was the carb, Hoyt put a new carb on mine and he said it could've been an issue from the get go because after the new carb it seems to have more low end and gets on step quicker
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:28 pm |
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SICK BIRD
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Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 22 Location: Louisiana
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Re: GTR bogging down
Brought mine to the shop this morning just got it back broke one push rod and bent another one.
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:33 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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Re: GTR bogging down
Push rods don't just bend & break unless something is wrong. What caused it?
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Killer Kallz & ANGLE PORT dealer (409) 720-8949
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:38 pm |
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SICK BIRD
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Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 22 Location: Louisiana
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Re: GTR bogging down
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i45 ... 66f104.jpghttp://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i45 ... 688571.jpgHit a pipe on the lake yesterday and lost a cylinder, Brought it in this morning and he said the stage ones sometime have the rod disconnect or bend, runs great now.
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:41 pm |
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Unclerico6
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Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:29 am Posts: 1
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Re: GTR bogging down
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