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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
I just got my engine modded by the boat dr but I am hitting the rev limiter at full throttle trimmed slightly down. I got heads cam carb and just waiting for my voodoo exhaust which I would expect to bump me up in the Rpms even more. I have a gen 3 and I will hit 30-32 2 person load and dog. Looking for someone with a similar setup who worked there prop and what results did you get. |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
I've got a level 3 (stage 2) Delta Performance build on my gen 4. I'm currently running the hammer prop and I love it. Granted you're gonna need a good bit of cup and pitch on that gen 3, but it's a good prop. What prop are you running now? I know those shovels have a crap ton of pitch and cup in them. |
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| Author: | 50fps [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
What rpms are you turning with your current setup at 30-32 mph? |
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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
I'm running the stock 2 blade prop right now. I'm at 4700 Rpms hitting 30-32 shallow water. Runs a constant 28-29 deep water. Against wind. Only took boat out twice sense I got the mods, I'll Be hunting tomorrow morning to get more numbers. Also my boat is 16x56 alweld center console. |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Are you running a power tech prop or the shovel prop? |
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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Honestly I have no clue. This is my prop |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
That's a powertech. |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
You are sure you motor is a gen 3 right? Cuz if you do have a gen 3 you have that 2:1 gear ratio. |
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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
I bought the engine new in March of 2013 so I assumed it was a gen 3. Could be a gen 2 |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
You would need the build date of the motor. 2013 models were a gen 3, but IDK that they ran power tech props on them because of the 2:1 gear ratio. Your prop doesn't look anywhere near pitched enough for a gen 3. They had a 3 blade and a 2 blade shovel. Reason you need to make sure is that on a gen 3 the shovel prop is the best you're gonna get. On any other gen PD even with a level 3 kit you can't turn the shovel....I know....I've tried. |
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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
I'll look for the paper work and see what it is for sure. If it is a shovel prop, should I just add a little pitch or cup to it and call it a day? |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
That prop in the pic is a power tech prop. It's most definitely not a shovel. The shovel is a round ear type prop with a 16 pitch stock and tons of cup. They don't look anything like the power tech's. |
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| Author: | BlueShamu [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
I think I see a tapered bushing in there....that may be a Gen II LU. That's what I call the tulip prop. |
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| Author: | BlueShamu [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Yeah...just looked again at the photos. Skeg is definitely a Gen II. |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
The black prop is the PD Shovel prop and the silver is the MB Hammer. |
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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Ok well sense we established I have a gen 2 instead. What are some good options for me to do? |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
On my level 3 I'm running the hammer prop and I love it. Not the fastest prop I have, but it eats like a mofo and it gets on a plane fast. Here's a video of me testing it out in some stuff. https://youtu.be/ljZyace3Ulw |
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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
What's Rpms are you turning and what speeds are you seeing with it? Also is it reworked? |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
| Author: | 50fps [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
When did PD start making the shovel props? Every PD prop I have seen has had tip curl. |
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| Author: | 50fps [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Mudman is running the stock PD prop. |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:22 am ] |
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| Author: | 50fps [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Nope don't want one, just a bit behind on the what they been switching around. It looks a lot like the MB ones back in the day and anything involving PT is a crap shoot. |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
As far as I have heard they based the shovel from the hammer prop. The PT props haven't been good as of late, lots of slung blades, especially on worked ones. I've got 3 that I'm afraid to run because they've let me down already. |
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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Went hunt this morning, boat runs a solid 29 deep water. 30 shallow with 2 185 pound guys, 45 pound dog, 5dozon decoys, and gear. Prop has to be trimmed down to run 4650-4690 Rpms which is what I get those speeds at. I'll be adding the voodoo this week or next and I'll be getting a prop or getting prop work done after I take the boat out and see what Rpms she's turning. Would a hammer prop or a worked stock prop be better for top end and all around performance? |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
No question between the PT and the Hammer. PT's have been known to sling blades when worked, the hammer is a tough ass prop. As far as performance the PT will be faster, but it won't perform anywhere near the Hammer in the nasty stuff. |
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| Author: | 50fps [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
So the prop Mudman is running is a PT? When did they PD start contracting with PT? It looks the same as the PD prop I have been running since Hopkins built them for PD back in the day. |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
| Author: | 50fps [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
I guess I didn't clarify what I was questioning. The prop Mudman is running looks exactly the same as the props that were on the PDs back about a decade ago, except 27 had a cleaver style. I am just wondering at what time PD started sourcing through PT? The reason I ask is that I have had a couple reworked PD props and the last one went almost 4 yrs before slinging a blade. |
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| Author: | Mudman150 [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
doesnt the hammer prop only come for hex shaft? |
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| Author: | BlueShamu [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
So, I'm guessing Chris is rebroaching the 7/8 threaded Hammer with maybe an insert or something? Wonder if he has something similar for the Gen II LU's?? |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:07 pm ] |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:09 pm ] |
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| Author: | dukester903 [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:04 pm ] |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Here's the PT prop that slung a blade on my rig. |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:45 pm ] |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:17 pm ] |
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| Author: | CycloneShaun [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
Also what size GD? |
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| Author: | Will C [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stage 2 prodrive 2 blade prop |
7/8 thtreaded |
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