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marsh chicken
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Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:27 pm Posts: 492
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 lost power
i was stuck in some heavy mud last night....eventually made my way out but when i finally got back into some water none of my power switches would work on the boat. i.e. running lights, spot lights, bilge pump. we had a couple of gallons of water in the boat, but nothing crazy. and my power trim on the motor was still working so i know the battery was putting out power and wired correctly. anyone ever experience this or have an idea on what to start checking first? thanks guys!
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:10 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: lost power
Start by checking all your fuses. Do you have a volt meter or test light? Just track the wiring from the battery until you figure out where you lost voltage.
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:17 pm |
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marsh chicken
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 Re: lost power
i do have a volt meter...im brand new to the mud motor. so to sound like a complete rookie...where are the fuses located at? i run a gator trax 1750...and a GTR35.
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:24 pm |
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: lost power
The fuses for your accessories would not be on your motor... There should be a separate switch panel for all your accessories your talking about the fuses should be located in there...
Assuming your panel looks something similar to this with switches and then fuses below or next to each switch:
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:43 pm |
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UNCLE-J
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Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:26 am Posts: 10388 Location: S-Ville, LA
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 Re: lost power
check the main lead that runs from your battery to your switch panel. + & -
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:55 pm |
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marsh chicken
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 Re: lost power
i appreciate the help guys....my only issue is that my gatortrax boat has switches you pull to turn on the lights or bilge. there are no fuses underneath or over the switches....thats why im confused as to where the he!! these fuses are? any boys runnin a gator trax that know where to look?
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:56 pm |
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: lost power
http://www.discountmarinesupplies.com/E ... tches.htmlcheck this page out your electrical connections come into the back of the knob your talking about... http://www.colehersee.com/pdf/F-PushPull.pdf
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:00 pm |
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marsh chicken
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 Re: lost power
yup...those are it. i quickly checked the connections before it got totally dark. didn't seem like any were loose. am i correct in assuming there are still fuses located somewhere...or am i a complete re-tard?
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:13 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: lost power
There is probably a fuse somewhere. It may be close to the battery. Just start at the battery and work your way to the device('s) that are not working. If there is a 12v going from the batt to the switch with a fuse in the middle, check the batt side of the wire, then the other side of the fuse, then turn the switch on and check the other side of the switch, just work your way down the line until you find out where you lose power. I'm guessing it a fuse or fuses somewhere for everything to fail at once.
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Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:34 am |
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rebbeer
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Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:39 pm Posts: 417 Location: Lafayette, LA
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 Re: lost power
It could be an inline fuse on the red wire going from the battery to the switches.
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Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:08 am |
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marsh chicken
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 Re: lost power
you guys were right....it was a $1.50 fuse that caused the problem. the fust on my boat is indeed an inline fuse. it was under the battery compartment cover when i took it off this morning. thanks a lot for the help and suggestions. if this werent the internet id buy yall a beer...
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Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:15 am |
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WestEndAngler
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Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:17 am |
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cb5331
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Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:33 am |
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rebbeer
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 Re: lost power
It probably had a spare in the fuse holder. I know mine did.
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Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:37 am |
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cb5331
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 Re: lost power
Rebbeer, what kinda fancy fuse box you gots in your boat? I've seen that in a car, but not in a boat yet. I think the one he replaced is just one of them little rubber or plastic tubes with a fuse inside. There aint no room for a spare in there.
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Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:57 pm |
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rebbeer
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 Re: lost power
Not really that fancy. LOL 
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Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:12 am |
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cb5331
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 Re: lost power
LOL, thats damn near the same thing I was talking about. Mine doesn't have the extra tube. Never seen one of them like that.
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Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:57 am |
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marsh chicken
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 Re: lost power
well...i thought the issue was fixed. ran the boat yesterday and blew two more fuses. iv got 30 amp fuses in their so i know im not using too small of a fuse or im guessing i would have burned my shiat up. any suggestions on what it might be?
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Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:51 pm |
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cb5331
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 Re: lost power
Be careful, you can put a fuse in too big for the wire. What fuses are you blowing? You have a short somewhere. Does your volt meter have a continuity tester?
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Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:57 pm |
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marsh chicken
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 Re: lost power
hmm...i just replaced the fuse with what size was in their before. how do you tell what size fuse you need?
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Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:18 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: lost power
Was it a glass fuse or plastic? If a 30a came out, you're probably fine, just making sure you weren't putting a bigger one in.
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Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:22 pm |
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cb5331
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 Re: lost power
Carefully follow the wires from the fuse holder to wherever they go. You said the fuses popped while you were stuck, I'd bet you chafed a wire or two somewhere while trying to dig yourself out.
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Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:26 pm |
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marsh chicken
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 Re: lost power
it seems like they pop after i run the bilge when i have water in the boat. which leads me to think its either water getting to the wires and causing an issue....or the wire to the bilge is somehow chaffed or having some other issue. i'll check it out and let yall know what i find out. thanks for the help boys...
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Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:48 pm |
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muddoggie
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Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:16 am Posts: 44 Location: Shreveport
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 Re: lost power
Hate to dig up an old topic, but this thread was all I could find...can anyone tell me what the stock fuse is for the inline y'all discussed here? Mine melted somehow and I can't tell what amp it's rated for...
It's the inline fuse on the wire leading from the battery to bus(?) on a gator Trax.
Thanks guys
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keystone light
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 Re: lost power
I think it's like a 15
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:30 am |
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muddoggie
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Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:16 am Posts: 44 Location: Shreveport
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 Re: lost power
Oh ok. Thought it would be higher than that. Anyone changed the fuse/holder out with a breaker?
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:02 pm |
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Wpatter505
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Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:25 pm Posts: 246 Location: Little Rock, AR
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 Re: lost power
I usually stick with fuses for DC and breakers for AC. Not certain why but that is just what the taught me in EE school.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:49 pm |
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muddoggie
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Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:16 am Posts: 44 Location: Shreveport
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 Re: lost power
I wound up staying with the fuse. Figured since that's what came on it, probably should Keep it the same...
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:39 pm |
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cb5331
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:11 pm |
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Wpatter505
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:44 pm |
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Wpatter505
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