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Author: | MarshMan985 [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Better for logs? |
Let's open up an arguement for all motors- Which is best all around while running logs and stumps? GO! ![]() |
Author: | Salad Shoota [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:05 pm ] |
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Prodrive no doubt. The skeg is bigger than the LU. Lol. |
Author: | T-Bubba [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
35 longtail |
Author: | MarshMan985 [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Yeaa longtails are real nice for logs, and I have a PD, and I'm not sure man I hate stumps. There's no way I'll run them. However, my uncle has a GDSD and he hits stumps wide open without throwin them out the boat. |
Author: | Woodiebuster [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Grow Balls and stay out from under the tiller, most people around The ArkLaTex that run stumps run PD's. Why they got you scared? And a LT is best in the stumps, especially slow rolling. |
Author: | T-Bubba [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
i've lifted my transom and motor up on stumps... while the PD worls very well in the logs and stumps a longtail does best in just stumps but i run stumps,logs and thick floaton and lillies.... the fpr is a must |
Author: | Podcast [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:36 pm ] |
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The skeg on a PD is superior to other MM's I'll admit, however, it is rear heavy as opposed ta a GDSD that would easily pop up when encountering a log. As stated before, long tails are the best fer logs. |
Author: | CootSlayerRMFT [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:25 pm ] |
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GDSD wide ass open! You can truck them all day, just keep your shins clear of the tiller handle. |
Author: | MarshMan985 [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
well you can say scared call it what you want but I hear stories of people stripping gears in their PDs from running logs hard and I'm not trying to mess up my prop either |
Author: | T-Bubba [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:54 pm ] |
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Author: | Salad Shoota [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:02 pm ] |
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I just stay on step and roll! |
Author: | MarshMan985 [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Are yall running a log every now and then or is it an area covered in stumps? |
Author: | T-Bubba [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
every time I use my boats i am in them... hard solid cypress logs and stumps with a few oaks as wheel... shit dont give this is one of the trails i run |
Author: | MarshMan985 [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
sorry I can't see the pic. |
Author: | BAG Hunter [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
I know this wont work for mud or veggies, but when I run in stumps or when the river is really low, I pull the tiller adjustment pin out so that if it hits hard the motor will kick up and the tiller handle will float and not try to break your leg. |
Author: | Woodiebuster [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
I stole this from OwenDickeson, he runs these area's like these with a PD along with many others. No more problems than other brands that have run these places. |
Author: | Sonny13 [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
havent heard "stumpgrinder" in a while. My PD runs stumps all the time an no major problems. 200 plus hrs and all i got are bad seals. |
Author: | Sonny13 [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
and yes that is me and my boat in my avitar just to prove a point that it can be done. |
Author: | T-Bubba [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:11 am ] |
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Author: | Will [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Lots of stumps, cypress knees, logs around here. One particular lake looks nice and smooth but many years ago some smart MF'rs apparently cut a cypress forest down and the stumps are 2-3" under the water surface. It has claimed a many of outboard. I've hit a countless number of them WOT with a loud smack, a slight pause, a quick SOB!, and back in the throttle...no worries |
Author: | whistlingwings [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Don't matter the brand, if you abuse them enough, they'll ALL break. It's not the WOT skeg hits that do the damage, it's the continuous prop strikes at low speed. I broke my GTR shaft a couple weeks ago, but to be fair, my skeg is so worn that it no longer provides adequate prop protection. I also towed in two PDs with busted gears in the same week. I'm sure you could bust a GDSD or MB also, but I don't think I've ever seen one during crawfish season. Busted GTR Busted Prodrive |
Author: | Will [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
You're right about the prop hitting stuff. I hit a rock with my prop that skinned down the side of the skeg, luckly I was only idleing or it would have been a bad day. |
Author: | THE TANK [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
If you going to go slow GDLT 35 for sure, but I run my GT like I stole it and I get ware i need to be. They all break trust me it just depends on what you want to drive.......... |
Author: | cash [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:39 am ] |
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Author: | woodysqueal23 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
It sure is nicer to hit a log with a motor that has a floating handle than one that is bolted/ welded to the frame. I no longer have shoulder problems since i sold my longtail and got my gtr. |
Author: | Robn1020 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Question is which are you running? Stumps or logs. I enjoy driving my GDSD over logs due to it being very easy to lift up. Stumps Im fine with because its a tough unit and I sometimes run through a pass cluttered with cypress knees and downed floating trees. WOT and it just kicks up. I could see where a PD would be easy in stumps cuz there is no long shaft sticking out. On logs, a reach is more desireable, IMO. |
Author: | MarshMan985 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Running stumps, There are spots I run with hundreds of old cypress tree stumps just a couple inches under water |
Author: | Robn1020 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:46 am ] |
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Author: | OwenDickeson [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Better for logs? |
Robin explain how it would be hard on the motors with trim. You do understand that the motor floats on the trim right? |
Author: | Robn1020 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:41 am ] |
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Author: | MaXXis85 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:44 am ] |
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^ they have a tilt bracket on both PD's and GTR's |
Author: | cb5331 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Been hitting stumps and crawling over logs all week with the pd, when I wasn't on here arguing with you assholes. ![]() |
Author: | Podcast [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:56 am ] |
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Author: | CootSlayerRMFT [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
I hear what yall are saying, and I agree that every GTR and PD that I've seen is perfectly fine with stumps and logs. However, I also suspect (and agree) that he was intending to put more emphasis on the "balanced" aspect of the GDSD. I think what he was implying is that it comes up to clear the obstruction more gently then sets back down a little softer. For a boat that may not have the transom strength of a true mud boat, I can see how that might help. |
Author: | Robn1020 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:04 am ] |
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Author: | CootSlayerRMFT [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
Sorry, I kinda babbled cause I was trying to say it as objectively and non-confrontationally as possible so no one would feel butt hurt... ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Robn1020 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:23 am ] |
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Author: | OwenDickeson [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:35 am ] |
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Author: | The Shafer [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Better for logs? |
Let me just say that I hunt lakes that are nothing but stumps. I had a 35 gdsd and it beat the shit out of me. Everytime I hit something that damn handle would fly out of my hand and hit me on the side of my knee. By the end of duck season I had a huge bruise on the side of my leg not to mention the front pocket of my waders being ripped off. I switched to a pd and have had zero problems. |
Author: | Robn1020 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Better for logs? |
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