Been around longtails for a long time. Built my first one which was an 8hp Tecumseh with no u joint. Designed similar to what ppf design is. Trust me been there done that ain't worth going that route. So to call me an idiot for knowing what a good product is says that your inexperienced or just plain stupid. Evidently y'all Yankees don't know what hard running is. Keep them little tinker toys up there cause they won't last down here.

Btw that hopped up go cart motor is a ticking time bomb. That's the last thing id want on my frame. It's one thing to have it on a go kart on the tract but to be stuck out in bfe with a burnt motor is another.


Gd been around 30 years for 2 reason a design that is as reliable as a mud motor can get and also for the customer service.

Da go get'r, you better listen up!! Draht is a fuckin expert, he has 17 posts. I bet he runs them for a living, too.

I'd love to take em out and smoke em. What this yank fails to realize is most of the original members started off with GDLTs and aren't here or willing to step up to the plate.

Oh yeah, hopped up and reliable never go in the same sentence. Ha

Dha go getter, since when does removing emissions controls such as the exhaust and air cleaner and replacing with batter parts make a motor a ticking time bomb? And let's see some pics of that mud motor that you made 8 years ago that was junk. I have seen plenty of people make MM's much like the GD that you speak so highly of that have been junk as well but does that make the GD junk as well? No, GD makes a great MM but they fell behind in design and had to catch up, sealed ball bearing and a motor mount that would spin 360 just to name a few. The problem here when you are comparing a home build of your own to a manufactured product is R&D and using the proper parts and equipment. DOM tubing, cnc pipe benders and laser jets just to name a few. You guys are posting on a thread that you clearly have no experience about or with, the product in question. So if you want to talk about how sweet your GD LT's are start a thread. Don't jack someone elses. BackH2o uses this same design and they seem to more highly regarded then GD most cases.


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Dha go getter, since when does removing emissions controls such as the exhaust and air cleaner and replacing with batter parts make a motor a ticking time bomb? And let's see some pics of that mud motor that you made 8 years ago that was junk. I have seen plenty of people make MM's much like the GD that you speak so highly of that have been junk as well but does that make the GD junk as well? No, GD makes a great MM but they fell behind in design and had to catch up, sealed ball bearing and a motor mount that would spin 360 just to name a few. The problem here when you are comparing a home build of your own to a manufactured product is R&D and using the proper parts and equipment. DOM tubing, cnc pipe benders and laser jets just to name a few. You guys are posting on a thread that you clearly have no experience about or with, the product in question. So if you want to talk about how sweet your GD LT's are start a thread. Don't jack someone elses. BackH2o uses this same design and they seem to more highly regarded then GD most cases.


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WTF does a swivel motor mount made for transportation have to do with anything. Just keep rattling off.

The Egyptians built the pyramids without modern technology. Just sayin.

Why should I go back and search I have the "internet super star" right here knows everything and runs nothing but GD. So again can you enlighten us on your knowledge or experience with the PPF or Stumpjumper as the thread states? Or should we just buy a GD because they are the best because you said so? You just don't get it do you? The post says nothing about GD and you come on here and bash everything but. And your not a fan boy and are help full... GD makes a great product we know that but that is not what the thread was about. You GD fan boys can start a thread and all talk about how cool and indestructible your MM's but don't talk shit on a thread that asks nothing about GD. That way if someone is considering something else they can start there own non GD thread and get help. But if they wanted to know more about GD they can just jump on your fan boy thread and read all about the best MM ever.


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Obviously you can't comprehend what was written. Have a good day!

No no keep going I love this shit

Here's my build. Since you called me out on it. The handle and mounting plate are gone. Haven't seen them since hurricane Rita. The coupling for the shaft was used for a trot line weight. The shaft is in the rafters of my shed and is not used as an anchor point for my lift winch. What else you want to know about these motors?

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Just so you know, I don't think gd's are indestructible. They have their weak point and I have found it. The handle was purposely built as a weak spot. When asked why not make stronger I was told what would you rather have a broken handle that can be replaced with 4 bolts or break something on the frame and not be able to get back home. And when you do your gonna have to weld on something.
Like I said he has been around longer than all the other builders combined. He knows his shit.
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Like kibb said. We run these things for a living. If you want something torture tested give it to me. I'll find the weak spots. There's not a single day I'm not in or around a boat. So call me an idiot but in the end I know what I'm talking about. If you wish not to respond I understand, but if you do I'll be patiently waiting from my moms basement to enlighten people on these motors of the mud.
With best regards,
dgg

I'm glad this tread was started so I could learn about these motors.
They are cute, I might get one for my pirogue and ride around in my front yard when it rains...

Don't forget Nab, too.

You hillbillies still got the man panties all bunched up cuz ya got called out for jacking the thread with your GD talk. Ha ha!

Run one. Then talk about it.

Til then, tits or stfu

I'm really not trying to insult you, just think its funny how many threads i read where dudes are just stroking their egos rather than helping answer the questions that are asked by guys who are new to world of bad ass boat motors. Clearly people come here looking for help and answers. I felt like I landed in a good place when i found this site because of the plethera of knowledge i had access to. I just think it would be a lot cooler if you guys with all this knowledge and experience were a little more helpful and quit with ego stroking. I think there are pros and cons to all makes of motors. It all depends on what your doing and where you're doing it. But by all means don't think its an insult to call you a hillbilly, I may be a Yankee but we are hillbillies up here too. We do all the same shit as you boys, we're just north a bit. I've read a bunch of you boys posts and I can tell you know your shit. Just keep helping fellas out and don't get so huffy so easily. Peace out.

Don't worry I feel differently. We didn't come on here stroking egos. Somebody else jacked the post and we were simple stating what we knew since, we know our shit as you stated. It's noobs like yourself that's the reason i don't help much anymore. So you can go have sex with your goat, hillbilly goat fucker.

Very well written and thought out post. Covered any issues you will have with a PPF or SJ seems to be about right on. Nice try at your home build too bad it didn't work out for you. But comparing a home build to a production product is still crap, it's like saying me building a mad mud is comparable to a GD. I don't run my PPF everyday not even during the hunting season when it gets used the most. I hunt in MN as I'm a Yankee as you would say, hunt in freezing rain and temps around 10 in the mornings until every thing freezes then we do our best to break ice and keep everything open. My PPF has yet to to leave me stranded with an open air filter gov removed and exhaust. I have a filter cover that only leaves the bottom open for air a little more restrictive then a truly open filter but much better then stock. So to bash PPF and SJ and jack a thread and only talk about how sweet your GD is makes you a fan boy. And helps the poster of the thread zero. It's fans boys like you and many others on this site that have wrecked it. By offering up information on a product they have no experience with and pitching there fan boy product and bashing everything else. For most people such as myself and the hunting/boating we do a PPF or SJ is more suited for us then a GD, I know with your thick skull and fan boy status that might be hard to believe but true. How do you keep your oiler attached to the top side of your drive shaft but would break a grease zurk? PPF used a lever motors not a twist grip. Bushing in the lower end of the shaft housing bearing on top. Supports the motor on the bottom as well as the back. The motor angle is an issue with oil in the back of the crank case adding extra helps but a pump would be a better solution. I'm not sure if the shaft is supported in the middle with a bushing or not could ask jake about this one. This frame is going to have flaws and break at some point just like the handles on the GD but for most people that use it for situations like me it will be a great little motor.


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So keep an bashing and pitching GD because you know it's the one and only and the best congrats you win fan boy!


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Not sure If this Is the right place or not but here goes.So whats the best longtail on the market?

All real world experiences and opinions are welcomed. Im looking forward to hearing from the experts.

Thx in advance

Backh20 is what I would look at if I ever had any interest in going back to a longtail.

Anyone have any experience with them weed wacker long tails...like on YouTube.

PM Bootzz

Hey go getter. .Mr. I do this everyday. Whays your experience wit dem der weed wacker longtails...you know like the one on YouTube. Will it plane out my 42x14 johnny boat?