All that cross bracing makes me cringe
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| Author: | igotit [ Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 22 suby project |
Pickup a 22 suby generator in a trade,also have a stainless steel homemade long tail. Figured.....lets put em together. |
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| Author: | brycecheramie [ Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
I feel like that tapered shaft will give you fits. But it may not! |
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| Author: | Will C [ Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
^^ exactly what I was thinking ... |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
| Author: | brycecheramie [ Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Nice!! Glad you got that fixed up! Looks sweet |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Thanx Its gonna be a slow build,i need exhaust,stator,universal and shaft and wheel. The shaft and wheel that came with the frame is trash. Locally i can buy a shaft for $68.00 already threaded and keyed 74 in length. I need around 72 in of shaft .....no pun intended. And im thinking ill need a 9x5 prop |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
She fits nicely on the frame,minor trimming required. Gonna replace both upper n lower bushings.not sure where to look for parts. The lower bushing is cross thread.....probally why the shaft is tore up. |
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| Author: | redlined_b16a [ Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Looks a lil cross threaded lol. Cut off that collar and I'll machine a lower roller bearing set up this weekend. If not I have some brass stock we can machine a bushing. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
The lower skeg is way to long,ill have to cut it or.....remove old sealand extend this tube with new seal setup. Im thinking pipe collar and close nipple,with bushing and seal....or bearings. On top ill put a 2 bolt flange bearing. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Gonna run a flanged bearing on the top side,on the lower end ill take the original top packing and run on the bottom. But the original packing is made for electrical conduit....not intended to have a rotating shaft in there. In the long run it will eat shafts. Im thinking brass bushing and greese seals....keep her full of greese. Any ideas on what to use that would be better. I could go bearing with seals.....but i dread a bearing failure. |
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| Author: | Russ [ Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
With all the concern for bearings in the bottom, never been stranded by bearings going out in a longtail or surface drive. There are a lot more bearings on that end of drive shafts than bushings being run (surface drives count). |
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| Author: | igotit [ Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
| Author: | Russ [ Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Call backwater, see if they'll sell you a revoclean. Or get a cap (seals are built in) and bearings from MudBuddy, then weld the appropriate collar on the bottom of the shaft housing for the bearings. |
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| Author: | reharbert [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
All the Backwater Parts for sale on their website: http://www.backwaterinc.com/store/c4/Pa ... ories.html Also, they're props work really well. My 22 predator came with a 9x6. I tried their 9x7 and 9x8 also. The 9x7 gave me the best results with both speed, and carrying the load with speed. The 9x8 was fastest, but fell off with a load. |
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| Author: | huck Finn [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
What block do you have. ? Using the. 9 x 8 wheel. H finn |
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| Author: | redlined_b16a [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
I gave a go devil brand brass bushing,I can also machine you a new brass bushing,Like my long tail grease every ride. I also have a needle bearing set we can machine to fit. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Gonna have to make something,godevil uses 1 in shaft tube,my frame runs a 3/4 tube. |
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| Author: | Russ [ Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Good point, igotit. Thanks for the reminder. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
No real progress....money tight. But i did buy a nice 9x6 used stainless weedless wheel for $40 Guy was looking for an electric dryer as a trade on letgo.....i bought a $30 dryer and delivered it to swap for the wheel. Still need a new shaft and a lower bearing,along with a universal and a stator. I can run without stator for awhile if needed. Slowly working on those items. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Ill get started on the boat 14x36 3/16 bottom and transom,should be ok for 22 hp. Its ugly but free. Gonna cut out the strut and fill da holes. |
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| Author: | SETx Longtail [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
All that cross bracing makes me cringe
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| Author: | igotit [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
| Author: | Will C [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Looks pretty dam good for the price! |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Its the old ugly mudboat i gave to my brother a few years ago. Gonna be a decent solo rig,has a solid bottom on it with a 15 in transom. By next weekend i should have the holes welded up. Gotta find some cash to get the rest of the needed parts. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Picked up a new 74"x3/4" threaded and keyed shaft from dagates in houma.$78....no serial number needed. Fyi the sell universal joints,factory godevil seals/bushings,shafts,misc parts. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Looks like i have a good bit of modding to do. Motor needs to be shimmed up to get correct shaft height,chop shaft to correct length aswell.gonna build the lower bearing and lengthen the lower end.....probally redo the cav plate. Who ever build this frame done alot planning,balance is perfect.about 1 lb of pressure needed to raise her up. My shaft tube was also bent....used the old swing it agaist a tree method to straighten up a bit. I make my own exhaust or modify a stainless one for a v twin briggs. Myffler for the eh65 suby is pretty pricy. The universal i have is big and heavy duty,may buy a backwater uni |
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| Author: | igotit [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Got new parts in da mail. New stator,adapter 3/4x1 .....and ordered a mud skipper lower bushing. Guess i gotta find time to put her all together. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Upper bearing solved Will extend lower to fit mudskipper lower bushing. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
The mud skipper lower is pretty good quality,pictured next to a still usable stcok go devil lower bushing. Ill chop da skipper in half,save the other half for when she wears. Gott turn od down alittle to fit in my ss extension tube. Mud skipper bushing specs 1 1/8 od x 6 length x 3/4 id Id is a lil sloppy on the 3/4 shaft,same amount of play as go devil. So i may leave the bushing the full length. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Gettin there Still need exhaust This is what im thinking for the lower. Quick way would be to run the original bushing and cut shaft 5-6 in shorter and trim skeg. But i like the 74 in length. So im going to install a length of ss tubing with 1 1/16 id onto the original 7/8 id tube,then remove cav plate and skeg....somehow aquire some 1/8 ss plate and remake a better skeg and cav plate.monday im bringing my lower bushing to work and shave 1/16 th off the od to allow it to fit inside the new lower tube. Sounds easy n sinple anyway. I have other options aswell,i dont like the eriginal small diameter tube size,i do have plenty 1 1/16 id ss tube that i could use to replace it,but i think this method ive chosen will be just fine. I plan on locking the mud skipper lower on with allen screws,drilling greese pilot holes. And the exhaust....i have 2 motorcycle mufflers i may run along side the shaft tube......if they fit. Nothing fancy for a frankenstein build. Look at that beefy universal.....its a monster thats rated to handle 1000 flbs and 5k rpm. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Decided to chop da foot off....lol Take advantage of the 74 in shaft and rebuild the lower. I didnt like the ugly cav plate or its design. My new stainless tube fit over the old tube perfectly. Gonna shave the lower bushing to fit inside the new tube. I dont have stainless plate,but i do have 3/16 steel plate. Im trying to watch the weight to keep balance the same. If needed ill move pivot back an inch to change the balance |
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| Author: | redlined_b16a [ Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Getting closer for sure.Looks good. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
Thanx Sweat fitted the bushing in da tube,taped 4-1/4x24 set screws and a 45 zerk. I guess next is cav plate and skeg.....then exhaust and throttle.....test run. Im alittle nervous about the cav plate angle,if i get wrong gonna need alot of bending to ride properly. I may go copy a go devil angle. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
I put some ugly back on it |
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| Author: | igotit [ Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
New 1/8 steel cav plate set to 27 degrees,last 3 inches of upper plate adjustable. Still gotta fab up a lower gusset and an upper support. But sofar i like it. |
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| Author: | WI WATERFOWL [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
AS for your exhaust setup since you want cheap and its a Frankenstein build could weld on a threaded coupling to each side and screw in some $7 Arnold mufflers. |
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| Author: | igotit [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
I thought about those cheap lil mufflers.....still thinking about it. I was also thinking bout trying to make something. Im in no rush.....but would like to ride asap Lol |
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| Author: | brycecheramie [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:18 pm ] |
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| Author: | igotit [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
They will last about 2 years easily. Eventually ill buy a stainless steel briggs intek muffler and adjust the pipes to fit. $90 shipped is hard to beat. I been eying some smale oxy bottles i have in da garage,maybe ill make something from them. |
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| Author: | FRANKtheTAU [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22 suby project |
This has been a really nice project you've worked on. Motor should give you some solid service. Kudos to you man. |
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