its about time to replace my 10 year old 870
i got it down between the bps or the super nova
who has either of them

I have a nova (pump) over 16 years of abuse and it's still my go to duck gun.

Had the BPS in a 10 gauge...kicked like a mule...so bought the Gold autoloader.

But, bought my son the 12 gauge BPS...really sweet gun. But, he's left handed so it works out really good for him with the bottom eject. They both probably pretty bullet proof. The Nova's are quite popular...and cheaper in price.

The guy I hunt with the most and he shoots a super nova and had trigger problems this past season. The other 5 years I have hunted with him, no problems

i got a maxxus last year but i shoot too many shells with it so im in need of a pump lol
the price difference doesnt matter

I've had both and the bps is faster it has a shorter stroke on chambering in the next shell I like mine that's why I got read of the nova I had

You get use to it

Your 870 gave you so many years of good service..... Why try to fix something that ain't broke!?

I hunted with a BPS a few times back in the day, never liked it as much as the Wingmaster.

Idk
I wanna try a new style pump,
The browning maxxus is nice but its just too much for me,
Are the 870 still $250?

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Having shouldered and fired the 870 - nova - bps there is a vast difference
in the way they hit your cheek and point.... BPS 3" is my go to gun... Although
I cut my teeth with an A5 - I am deadlier on shots 2 and 3 with a pump....

Each guy may have a different favorite due to his physical traits....

My 2 favorites are the cheap as dirt Mossberg 500 and BPS both in 3" cause
of the way they shoulder ( for me ) and because I like the shorter stroke of
the 3" versions better than the 3 1/2" versions.... The 870 feels "wierd" for
some reason to me - but I still kill most of the birds I fire on - it just doesn't
"feel right".... If the 870 feels good to you - stick with it....

3 1/2" shells don't offer but a slightly greater kill percentage in ducks for
a guy that can shoot ---- big difference with the honkers but not ducks....

Test 'em if you can and put over a box thru each to see what works - for you...

I have replaced many a rt shell latches on a bps, If that holds any weight
Smoother pump than most and a very reliable ejector. The extractor Spring will wear out w a good bit of shooting
The Novas I repaired were mostly due to miss use in not cleaning salt water out which corroded the sheet metal inserts in the action. Sometime I would have to replace the trigger housing bc it would allow the carrier to drop below its designed position. Trigger group is plastic so can't really repair worn plastic. Both are good guns


BT THEY AIN'T A WINGMASTER

Nova

Somebody's probably about to give me shit when I say this, but here goes:

BPS was my first shotgun. Got it when I was probably 8 or 10 (20 Ga. Youth Model). Sweet ass gun! When I was younger, I was good about wiping it down and spraying oil inside of it after I'd use it, but as time went on, I got lazy. The really bad part is that I don't guess I ever took the time to learn how to truly break it down beyond removing the barrel. As for an 870 or any of my other guns, I can get them down to the most basic of parts. I tell you that to tell you this: That 20 Gauge BPS is close to 20 years old, has had many thousands of shells put through it, has survived dove hunting (sand and dry dirt), has survived duck hunting (fresh and salt water and mud), has survived a kid's abuse (general bullshit), and it has never once been completely broken down and cleaned. Furthermore, it has never once needed any sort of repair or service, FINALLY and most impressive to me, I've NEVER seen it jam!

It's an unbelievable gun, and I'll never get rid of it!

You can't beat a Nova for in the marsh, things are indestructable

I've had a nova for the last 3 seasons and that thing got totally submerged in brackish water the first season i had it, I finished the hunt with no problem and when I got home I rinsed it with fresh water then cleaned and oiled it good and it never gave me any problems. I love that gun.

mine has been used as a walking stick, paddle, dog diciplin spud pole, you name it, still fires like a champ

Speaking of 3.5" shells, has anyone been able to find 3.5" steel in #6's

I love my Nova it never lets me down.

Looks like I'm getting the super nova

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Lots of opinions so I'll give mine.

I bought one when they first came out and I haven't run 5 boxes of shells through it. It has to be the sloppiest shotgun I own,trigger pull and pump action wobble. Recoil is very bad with heavy hunting loads.

Now I let a friend use it and he loved it. The gun does point well and is tough I'll just never buy another one. As a matter of fact I think about selling mine often I just don't sell guns once I buy them.

If I had to choose I'd take a which ever gun fits you best. I like a bps or the older 870's myself.

Man just go buy 2 or 3 Mossberg Maverick's and roll with it

I love my nova pump. Thing can take a beating had it for about 2 years now

had a BPS 12 gauge 3" for 4 years, cleaned it everytime i used it and 2 seasons ago during on a good hunt it started jamming halfway through the hunt and then the shell eventually siezed in the barrel. same thing happened last year so i threw it in the water and got an M2. ive had the M2 only 7 months and i love it so far but its too soon to tell how durable it is. Also the BPS is damn near impossible to put back together once you take it apart.

I can disassemble the nova pretty quick. It breaks down into 4-5 pieces which includes the pins that hold the trigger in place. I like that in a gun.

thnks coot, i know i can count on you

i used Black cloud, hevi-shot and some winchesters (all 3in) , all 3 work fine at the begenning of hunts but as the gun heats up after say, 10 shots it always starts jammimng like this. i would end up having to take the barrel off after every shot and force the shell out. not what you wanna be doing when the duck are coming in. on this particular hunt my buddy had his dads brand new browning gold and a 3" winchester shell siezed in the chamber. i was pretty pissed off with brownings on that day. i havent shot my bps since but ill try some new shells and see if thats the problem.

Polish the chamber. If u don't want it I'll take it
Pm me if u want it fixed