Damn, how much pressure that mofo have going???????????
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| Author: | tacmc6 [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:05 pm ] |
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I just had a new 1848 hull built for my PD36 and it looked great. A friend of mine that runs a local company told me that if I supplied the paint they would blast and paint it for me. Well I go there today to learn that when it was blasted apparently the pressure was to high or the blasting was done too close and now both sides of the boat looks like rolling hills. My friend the boss of the company is hunting and does not know this yet. How do I approach this with him? |
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| Author: | POKER1 [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:32 pm ] |
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That sux. Depends on how good a friend he is. He will let you know by the decission he makes when he sees it would be my guess. Dont know why you would blast a new bare aluminum hull to begin with. |
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| Author: | LA OUTLAW [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:34 pm ] |
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If you don't lightly blast a new hull the paint doesnt hold very well. |
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| Author: | POKER1 [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:35 pm ] |
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| Author: | LA OUTLAW [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:43 pm ] |
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Poker my boat is a PD rig they acid wash and paint. my paint job had aluminum showing on the inside walls from a gas tank touching it while riding for 3 or 4 hours. Now there's your bullshit!!!!!! There is no fukin way a paintjob is supposed to come off that damn easy!! |
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| Author: | POKER1 [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:57 pm ] |
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| Author: | LA OUTLAW [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:07 pm ] |
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It was a red plastic gas can that took my paint off the side, and after that day i noticed places all over where something would be sitting the paint would be rubbing off. That was my reason for the blasting and repaint. I would recomend a walnut shell blast or a really fine glass blast on a new aluminum boat before painting. Using really coarse sand and staying in one place to long will cause your aluminum to head up and warp like Tacman's boat did. |
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| Author: | 50fps [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:40 am ] |
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Most durable paint job I have seen yet was on a Beavertail hull and they media blast the hull prior to painting with one of the following if I remember correctly, baking soda, corn cob, plastic media or walnut hulls. Sand blasting heats up the metal. I ran my former hull through a lot of Arkansas timber squeezing it between trees and it held up great. To bad the boat overall wasn't as good as the paint tho. |
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| Author: | LA OUTLAW [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:40 pm ] |
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Walnut is a recomended blasting abrasive for aluminum but most people just try to get away using sand. |
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| Author: | JpEater [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:47 pm ] |
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| Author: | DMC [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:00 pm ] |
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How does the bottom look? Hopefully not like the sides! Was he doing this work for free? If so, and he replaces your hull, I hope you guys still remain friends. Not a good situation for either of you. I say who ever was doing the blasting needs a little training and a few docked pay checks to cover a new boat! |
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| Author: | Matt [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:57 pm ] |
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Just beat it out then weld up the gunnel solid where it is chain tacked, looks like it only pulled between the tacks. I know that is not what you wanna do to a brand new boat but it may save you a lot of headaches? |
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| Author: | JIMMY W [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:58 pm ] |
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Never blast Aluminum!The trick is cleaning before painting!!Shame about your boat dude!Good Luck! |
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| Author: | POKER1 [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:00 pm ] |
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Damn, how much pressure that mofo have going???????????
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| Author: | dead animal [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:29 pm ] |
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weld it up between tacs. not welded enough. that should fix it.  alumabright, scotch pad and duralux alum boat green paint. that's how i roll. 
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| Author: | BROOKS [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:32 am ] |
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I bet by the time you finally git the hull painted it ain't gonna look that bad ..... may look purdy kool with the right kind of camo job !!! May break it up some when you goes to hide it. Remember .... its just a boat hull !!! |
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| Author: | craig [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:39 am ] |
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| Author: | craig [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:49 am ] |
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Tacmc, was your friend doing this as a favor or were you gonna pay him for this? If it was being done as a favor, I wouldn't expect him to fix it. Best advice is what the other guys told ya, beat it out and weld it. Sorry to see what happened. Best of luck to you. |
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| Author: | UNCLE-J [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:01 am ] |
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BAAA HAAAAAA If something like this was to happen, Of Course it would be to you... LOL..... Couple Solutions for you : #1 Refer to one of my many post that tell people how to paint a boat. Blasting is not part of it. #2 Build a new boat. |
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| Author: | grrifles [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:26 am ] |
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I can tell you one thing they don't sandblast airplanes and the paint holds up just fine. |
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| Author: | hotdognjo [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:28 am ] |
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Choose #1. J, How waz dos bugs? |
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| Author: | craig [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:15 am ] |
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| Author: | Pintail58 [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:55 am ] |
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Sometimes brother-in-law deals don't turn out like they should. Downside is if something comes out of this the boss won't let others help out there friends again. Yet i can't imagine how your gut turned after seeing your new hull lookin like an old hooker. Gonna have to lay it on the ground and get the rubber hammer out. That's the best info i can give you. Might end up losing a friend out of the deal. |
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| Author: | tacmc6 [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:33 pm ] |
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Thanks for all the advice. I decided I would rather have a jacked up looking boat than to lose a friend. I will do what I can to make it look a little better and move forward. I can replace the boat, good friends are hard to come by. |
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| Author: | UNCLE-J [ Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:56 pm ] |
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| Author: | take'emgator [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:39 am ] |
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Another good one for etching aluminum is regular house hold vinegar. IT cleans and etches the aluminum at the same time! |
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| Author: | latravcha [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:57 am ] |
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Looks like he f'ed it up I really dont think you can do much with it I'll give you a 100 for the boat for scrap metal Just dont be mad when you see me running it down the 16 |
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| Author: | WestEndAngler [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:04 pm ] |
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I made a deal with a buddy to buy me out of a boat for $1,000. (old jon boat that we went 50/50 in on) Well verbal agreement was reached but a week goes by and he sinks the darn boat. With pressure from me and a payment plan he paid it off were still good friends we still laugh about it but a good friend (TRUE friend) will step up and make it right for both involved. Don't worry about losing a friend, if they run off they weren't really a friend to begin with! |
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| Author: | Tony B [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:17 pm ] |
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I'm no expert but I'd agree with Dead Animal here and put a weld between the existing welds, that should bring in the warps. As for sandblasting, the shipyard where I worked at (and every other shipyard in Loreauville) does blast their boats before paint but all they do is "frost" it, basically sweeping to etch the aluminum, not staying on it too long at all. Give the paint a nice surface to stick to. |
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| Author: | Crews [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:02 pm ] |
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are you absolutely positive the boat wasn't like that when you dropped it off? don't mean to insult your intelligence or anything, maybe it was built like that from the get-go. |
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| Author: | dpd [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:49 pm ] |
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Sorry about the blasting job. All I did to mine when I bought new; unpainted was clean real well with soap and water. Very light sanding, cleaned it again very well. Acidwashed it, then Primed it with yellow zinc cromate, and then painted. After two years of hard running all I have is the expected scratches and nicks. To be honest the majority of the battle scars come from the damn boat slamming against the launch while I am parking my truck or going get it to pick up, and I do alot of frogging and hunting in flooded cypress. The damn wharfs do most of the scratching. |
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| Author: | EasTexDux88 [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:05 am ] |
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Dude that sucks! I hope you and ur buddy can work it out. You only get a handful of TRUE friends in life and ya better keep em. |
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| Author: | bigdtex [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:25 am ] |
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| Author: | The Shafer [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:42 am ] |
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So what was the outcome of this post? 
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| Author: | UNCLE-J [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:21 pm ] |
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| Author: | tacmc6 [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:33 pm ] |
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It's not often but Uncle J is correct on this topic. Once he got home from hunting and saw the boat he called me and told me that he would take care of it. Sportsman Fabrication is ordering the aluminum this week and I should have it in about 3 or 4 weeks. He has to finish 3 other boats then he will start mine. This situation turned out better than I thought it would. Thanks for the advice from everyone. |
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| Author: | UNCLE-J [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:17 pm ] |
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