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Author:  cmelvin [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:58 pm ]
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After reading WEA post bout the Wallisville Decoy incident it got me thinkin. i wonder why it is legal to use corn while deer hunting but it is illegal to use corn while duck hunting? love to hear yall guys feedback on this

Author:  Capt. Jon [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:01 pm ]
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using corn is not a legal practice in all areas -- that is a decision left to the individual states. When you are dealing with ducks, you have to realize that you are in Federal jurisdiction. States can set their own mandates for ducks, but they have to follow the Federal framework and can not supercede those regulations.

Author:  cmelvin [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:08 pm ]
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i appreciate you explaining it out like you did about the federal and state laws. that was a quick response. i understand what your saying but i guess what i should have asked is do you think using corn for ducks should be legal like it is for deer here in texas and louisiana?

Author:  schrieverboy [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:14 pm ]
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cause its fun.. all the fun stuff is illegal :mrgreen:

Author:  BrackIV [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:19 pm ]
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Author:  schrieverboy [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:22 pm ]
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says the guy last seen on "how to catch a preditor"

seriously tho.. some states like missisippi used to not allow corn. had to be planted

Author:  basinhunter [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:24 pm ]
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Huh, you can't hunt ducks over corn?

Puhhhhhh who woulda thought, I been doing that for years.

Ain't nuttin better than a limit of straight corn fed mallards :lol:

Author:  schrieverboy [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:27 pm ]
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Author:  EasTexDux88 [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:43 pm ]
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i know avery makes a fake corn cob. i was thinkin bout gettin a bunch of pea gravel and dunkin it in yellow paint and dumpin that out in a field or slough :twisted: technically it aint food so i wouldnt call it "baitin" :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Author:  cmelvin [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:49 pm ]
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Author:  take'emgator [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:38 pm ]
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Bet you guys didn't know that here in the great state of Texas you can bait a pond 10 days prior to hunting it. 2 weeks before duck hunting you can legally bait a pond with millow, or menced corn. but it has to be 10 days.....now how in the hell is the GW suppose to know that you baited that pond 10 days ago.

Author:  schrieverboy [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:41 pm ]
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newsflash... its like that everywherre

Author:  quackconsumer [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:44 pm ]
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Author:  phowler [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:07 pm ]
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Author:  cmelvin [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:11 pm ]
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thanks for the reply but why do you think that mr phowler?

Author:  take'emgator [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:23 pm ]
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Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:28 pm ]
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They plant corn and other grains for ducks all the time. Whats the difference if its still on the cob or poured on the ground. I say there is none, but one is legal and the other is not. Go figure.

Author:  phowler [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:48 pm ]
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Author:  LaBirdman [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:44 am ]
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Well food plots for deer should be illegal too. :?: You are hunting over bait in my eyes. :!:

Author:  phowler [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:55 am ]
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As far as whitetails are concerned,,,, I live in Iowa. This state is a whitetail food plot from the Mississippi river on the east to the Missouri river on the west, from the northern border with MN. to the southern border with MO.

You really see no difference in hunting over a pile of corn as apposed to hunting a small portion of a field that may be 40 - several hundred acres?

Baiting deer is legal in some states.

If hunting over something that deer eat was illegal, deer hunting would be illegal.

Food plots benefit a wildlife population for several months of the year, many of those months are when the season is out, bait piles do not.

I have no stastical figures but I would venture to guess that food plots help to sustain far more wildlife than they help to kill. Again, bait piles do not.

Food plots require hours & hours of labor throughout the year to maintain & represent a serious financial investment, bait piles do not.

Author:  keestan31 [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:28 am ]
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Phowler
So your saying it is ok to set up and wait for a deer to come in for his evening meal and kill it but its not ok to set up and wait for ducks to come in for their meal and kill it?

If it should be illegal to hunt over food for ducks than I guess your saying you shouldnt hunt in any public ponds that have wigeon grass that the ducks like to eat?

Author:  WestEndAngler [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:11 am ]
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Here's what Ted has to say on baiting (deer) could be applied to waterfowl :?

http://deeranddeerhunting.com/article/b ... ackstraps/

Author:  Gigafowl [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:36 am ]
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Migratory Bird --- if you begin to feed them you begin to interfere
with their drive and motivation to migrate....

Phil Robertson had a rant in one of his videos against refuges --- same
complaint it interferes with their migration --- they begin to be "trained"
to "refuge hop" their way south --- insted of foraging for food as they
migrate south....

Food plots --- manually flooded lands --- plowed under agricultural yield

Are all benefits of the modern hunter and his desire to hunt ducks --- And
I would go so far as to say that without that modern hunter and these
broad efforts to attract the wary duck --- the duck would decline in very
serious numbers if we did not have these modern hunters and the dollars
of profit for the land owners generated by hunting them ! ! !

Author:  Crews [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:45 am ]
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I agree :oops:

Author:  BROOKS [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:37 am ]
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I have "shot" DuckByrds over bait befo .... back in mines wild and wicked days .... I have "shot" roosted DuckByrds after the sunset time .....


Believe me when I type ..... It is alot mo fun and enjoyable to "hunt" the DuckByrd in his own natural envirement .... It is alot mo fun and enjoyable to "decoy" yore DuckByrd .....

Now ~ Go out and git you a limit by yoreself and enjoy the trueness of an aclomplished WaterFowler ..... and git the baitin' of yore minds !!!

As fo the WhiteTail Deer ...... who really cares .... :lol:

Author:  phowler [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:11 pm ]
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Author:  mogumbo [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:20 pm ]
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Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the majority of hunting licenses are sold to deer hunters. Then you have to think about how much money that is and also factor in the intelligence level of your average deer "hunter". No disrespect to anyone who actually hunts deer instead of sitting over a feeder in a tower blind with photos in hand of the buck they want to shoot who usually shows up right around 5:00. Who the hell made that legal??? No sport in that. Carry on.

Author:  phowler [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:41 pm ]
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Not legal in this state.

I don't agree with some of the ways that people "hunt" but as long as it's legal where they hunt I won't say too much against it. We need to stay united whenever possible, God knows we have plenty of enemies from the other side.

Author:  EasTexDux88 [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:46 pm ]
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Author:  T-mac [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:24 pm ]
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Author:  take'emgator [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:45 pm ]
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Author:  EasTexDux88 [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:49 pm ]
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a very important part! :lol: :lol:

Author:  cmelvin [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:51 pm ]
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:lol: yea slightly

Author:  latravcha [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:21 am ]
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I never understood this either. why is it leagal to hunt a ag field that is flooded and it is not leagal to bait. If you hunt the rice fields you check the ducks neck and can feel the rice in it. I know several people that have ag fields just mow down part of the crop and flood the field. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE

Author:  Mudgun [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:39 pm ]
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You can flood your corn with water.
Don't flood your water with corn.

Rich man's logic and laws boys.

Every blind in America should be required to have 50# of corn dumped weekly.

Author:  50fps [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:11 pm ]
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