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How's that going for everyone? The shutdown cost a company I know about $125,000 as a direct result of the delays. This cannot continue.


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No issues, build the damn wall

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BUILD THE WALL! If you want to live in this country, do it legally.

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Build that wall, no matter how long the shutdown lasts. This president stands by his law enforcement instead of standing by the suspects like the previous POS and for that, he has my undivided support on whatever decisions he decides to make. That wall needs to be built. The amount of illegals that I have to deal with on a daily basis needs to be brought down big time. If they built that wall, just the amount of drunk driving crashes and domestic disturbances that illegals are involved in and cause would go wayyyy down. That wall needs to be built


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Hold out until they agree to build the wall. If the government cut out all the assistance that is given to the illegal immigrants like food stamps, free health care, and welfare we could pay for the wall and have plenty of money left over. Hell if we did that and quit hiring illegals they would go home and we wouldn't need the wall.


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Well, I see nothing has changed much here.


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And I still wanna know why I gotta keep paying taxes, while they shut down, sittin on their ass collecting a check....

I bet they'd make a deal real quick on a wall, if we stopped paying taxes while the gov. was shut down.
Fuck em, every one of em.

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Love thy neighbor Mexico and all those Mexican and Central Americans who dream of America and her bounty and freedom. Illegal border crossings are at historic lows and have been for years. The murder rate in McAllen Tx was zero last year. I think some of you check under your beds at night before you go to bed looking for Mexican and Central American boogie men. Come on fellas, be like Victoria, Texas and how the Texans there handled with dignity, sympathy and respect the burning of its Muslim mosque by an evil racist and hate monger. The Jewish community church opened its doors to the Muslim congregation so they would have a place to worship and pray while my cousins husband-architect designed and built a new one. There are pockets in Texas where really good people live and love all people no matter what. We need more of that instead of a stupid wall that will do nothing.


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Bluesky, when your first response is nothing more than school yard name calling, you've lost credibility and deserve to be disregarded. Your post will mean nothing to me.


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Bluesky, did you say something? My disregard is steadfast.


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Don't bring facts and logic into this bullshit. He knows a company that lost money because of delays due to the shutdown. Illegal immigrants should be allowed to do whatever, because all they did was come here illegally. That includes taking tax dollars to support them that they will never contribute to because if they do, then their illegal immigration becomes noticed. It's all ok.

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OP, what is your point. Really are you here to have a discussion, or just throw out your opinion, then in go to a safe place when an argument is made. It seems when you lack the communication you get behind the normal lefty shit. Oh your name calling, your a racist, etc.

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Pretty much nailed it when I called this arsonist a racist:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/marq-vince ... 018-07-17/


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Ignoring where applicable.


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Wait a minute.....

Dean, is that you?
Hmmmmm, I’ll bet my paycheck that it is you...

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Yeap, it’s Dean.
GTFO

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Ha,ha! Lol


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No one is crossing the Mexican border where there is currently no wall.


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HERE ARE THE FACTS:

WE’VE INVESTED BILLIONS IN BORDER ENFORCEMENT
We’ve created a spending monster that is gobbling up taxpayer dollars that could be better spent elsewhere, like on health care, education, and infrastructure. Congress continues to channel more U.S. taxpayer dollars to immigration enforcement agencies (more than $21 billion now) than all other enforcement agencies combined, including the FBI, DEA, ATF, US Marshals, and Secret Service. The bulk of this money goes to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). With a budget of $14.4 billion in fiscal year 2018 and more than 59,000 personnel, CBP is the largest law enforcement agency in the country, and more than 85 percent of the agency's Border Patrol agents (i.e., 16,605 of 19,437) are concentrated on the southern border. Trump’s expanded deployment of the military to the border to include active-duty troops could cost between $200 and $300 million in addition to the estimated $182 million for the earlier deployment of National Guard to the border.

NET UNAUTHORIZED MIGRATION FROM MEXICO HAS FALLEN TO ZERO
A growing Mexican economy, an aging population and dropping fertility rates have led to a dramatic decrease in unauthorized migration from Mexico. In fact, net migration from Mexico is now zero or slightly below (more people leaving than coming).

TOTAL APPREHENSIONS ARE LOW AND MANAGEABLE
Increases in CBP spending and staffing comes at a time when migrant apprehensions continue to be near an all-time low with only a slight increase from 2017. The combined 521,090 apprehensions for Border Patrol and Customs agents in fiscal year 2018 were 32,288 apprehensions fewer than the 553,378 apprehensions in 2016. For greater perspective on these figures, on average, each of the 19,437 Border Patrol agents nationwide apprehended a total of only 19 migrants in 2018 - that averages fewer than 2 apprehensions per month., In the last few years, an increased proportion of apprehensions are parents seeking to protect their children from the violence and extreme poverty in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. But even with more Central Americans arriving to our southern border seeking protection, total apprehension rates are still at their lowest since the 1970s.

BORDER COMMUNITIES ARE SAFE
The southern border region is home to about 15 million people living in border counties in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. These communities, which include cities such as San Diego, Douglas, Las Cruces, and El Paso, are among the safest in the country.

THE DANGERS OF UNCHECKED BORDER ENFORCEMENT
CBP has extraordinary authority that far exceeds other law enforcement agencies. Under 8 U.S.C. 1357(a) and 8 C.F.R. 287.1, CBP asserts the power to act without a warrant and do any of the following inside the United States without first establishing any suspicion of wrongdoing as is normally required under the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution:

Interrogate anyone to ask for their papers in the U.S.
Search cars, buses, trains up to 100 miles from border.
Enter onto private property (but not a dwelling) up to 25 miles from the border.
CBP’s extraordinary authority coupled with extraordinary resources has led to repeated abuse of power, pointing to gaps in agency oversight, accountability and training. Since 2010, CBP agents have killed more than 70 people. No known agents have been brought to justice for these deaths. CBP, however, has one of the highest termination rates for its agents when compared to other federal agencies.

A BETTER BORDER BEGINS WITH EFFICIENCY & ACCOUNTABILITY.
In the 21st century, border residents and travelers should feel safe from corruption and abuse. The rapid buildup of CBP personnel has not been matched with a commensurate investment in oversight such as in sufficient investigators at the CBP Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) and DHS Office of Inspector General (OIG) to address corruption and abuse within CBP. Accountability could be enhanced by (1) requiring the use of body-worn cameras, with adequate privacy protections, (2) gathering and public reporting of stop and arrest data from checkpoints and during roving patrols, and (3) limiting the “warrantless” authority that CBP uses to undermine 4th amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure. CBP oversight and accountability must become a priority.


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You don't have protection by the 4th amendment if you are not a legal citizen. If you are illegal, expect to be confronted by the appropriate authority. If you think crossing the boarder of a country into another allows you to enjoy all the rights and freedoms that the citizens of that country enjoy, go try that in China, Russia, Africa, India, Germany, etc and see how well that goes.

If you truly believe too much money is being spent on CBP, then you should support the wall 100% more than most, because with an actual boarder and barrier, you won't have to pay as many agents to patrol areas that have no wall or barrier......again, common sense and simplicity.


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