I gots a question


Is the pressure in this well to much for them to run a plug down on wireline thru the pipe they have in there already and plug this fukin thing off?

From what I understand the BOP shears are partially engauged so more than likely the tubing string/or production casing is partially collapsed too, making it nearly impossible to run any kind of plug or tool down hole ( I could be wrong..) Its just a phucked up situation all around.

Well that would make sense ---- Plus now that Im thinking about it -- that pipe they ran down there isnt nearly as big as the one in the ground so couldnt get the tool down there anyway

rather than a wireling plug, i would think if bp would quit screwing around and cut off that riser pipe, they could actually stop the flow.


1. get delmar to drop a couple sea anchors on each side of the bops.

2. run cable from overhead rig to anchors and backup to rig.

3. drink beer

4. drop fully open bop with rig while pulling on cables to hold bop straight in the flow and put the mfer on the riser pipe. it will slip over existing riser pipe and close over it like a hydril.
5. use rov's to hookup hyd lines on hydril and secure bop to riser.

6. hook up hyd line to bop with rov's and close bop stopping oil flow.


7. hook up on top of bops and kill the well.

8. go beat the shit out of the mfers who were responsible for the spill in the first place. repeat daily till dead.

it's that simple.


or, use same apparatus to stick a storm packer in the riser pipe and set it.

hopefully one of these methods can work.

or one big bridge plug.

use several cables and the rig to force it into the wellbore.

if a 6'' pipe went in, u might get a bridge plug small enough to expand to the size of the id of the riser in there. they set with exsplosives, so it might set before getting blowed out.

got a better chance of working than throwing golf balls

one of my good buddies work for cameron and inspects the bop and he was told from a bp head ****** in charge that there was cement blocking the bop from doing its job ....

i'm thinking storm packer on pipe guided by cables to stabilize it.

get it in there a couple feet and set it off.

or...

i really think if they can cut the riser then they should be able to fabricate a device to get on top and secure the well. hell, that's how they do it on other blowouts.

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it may be planned, i just hope sumone comes up with something soon.

I was kinda thinking, if they can send a tube into the well, why can't they send something inflatable in it, insert it in the pipe deep enough and then inflate it, plugging the hole.

It would have to be a permanent plug but at this point i don't think they care, they just want it stopped! But if they didn plug it, DA they said something about drilling next to it?

From what I underdstand the riser is layed over and they have tried to lift it but were unsucessful, this maybe from a fear that if they pull to much on it that it may part and then they may have less to work with. I also understand that it isn't laying flat, a cavern has washed out from the flow and it is not horizontal and that is where the problems lies in trying to run anything in the hole tubing conveyed. You will never get any sort of wireline in the hole with it flowing the way it is.

sorry matt, but if they stuck a pipe into it to siphon the oil, they can stick a pipe in it with a bridgeplug or sumthing like one in it. if one even exist.

i agree on not getting wireline in there,too much flow to overcome, were talking running tools on pipe, assisted by several large cables pulling down and stabilizing the pipe from the ocean floor. read my post a few post ago to see what i'm talking about. i may have been unclear in how i exsplained it.




maybe a pipe built like a owens poackoff, where upon detonation it seals to the wall of the pipe.


um, i set plugs that hold high pressure on a regular basis, granted they are set in a nipple profile, but if u can stack a couple brideplugs or inflateable packers that should hold the pressure long enough to slip on a good bop.


i'm all for the cut the riser and install a working bop for the first thing to try.

the more i think about it the more i like the slip over bop idea. i think it would work.

what am i overlooking?

i dont know chit about whats there and cant really tell what the pictures are showing. i assume there is a pipe sticking out of the ground, with some sort of auto valve ( the bop?) on the end.
if so waht size pipe or casting is it? is it a ductile pipe or is it malabale pile?
was thinking one of the uav's could attach a hydrolic collar around the pipe and pinch that mother closed. if it didnt stop it it surlly would slow it down.

it's a 20sumthing inch riser i beleive. the riser is above the nearly 5 story tall bop stack.


if bp would tell everyone the truth about exactly happened, sumbody might be able to come up with a real soloution instead of all of us just guessing and hoping.

goodbye duck season along the coast.

got a lawyer friend in Ms thats a bigtime classaction suit guy, he is foaming at the mouth over this.

Undersea robots began sawing through a six-inch pipe one mile beneath the surface of the Gulf of Mexico Tuesday to ready BP's latest attempt to contain oil gushing from a blown out well.

The company is trying to cut the broken riser pipe and fit it with a cap and suction tube that will suck leaking oil and natural gas to a ship on the surface. The procedure is called the Lower Marine Riser Package cap option. The option, which seeks to contain the oil flow but not stop it, follows the failed top kill, an attempt at stanching the flow.

The LMRP cap option, as it is called, could proceed in two ways depending on how successful the robots and saws are. If a clean enough cut can be made, the pipe will be fitted with a "top cap" surrounded by a rubber seal, a method believed to have the greatest chance at containing the most oil, National Incident Commander for Deepwater oil response Thad Allen said. If the cut is not clean, BP will use "top hat" instead to seal the pipe, an option that would allow for more oil to spill out, Allen said.

The procedure -- cutting the pipe and sealing it with a cap -- could take 24 to 72 hours, Allen said. When the pipe is cut, oil flow out of the well could increase by as much as 20 percent, Allen said. It's possible that the oil could spew unchecked during that period after the pipe is cut, but before the cap is placed for 24 to 36 hours, Allen said.

just my .02, but wouldn't it be lots beter if it were plugged off? than u can fbricate a device fit on top of the existing structure, seal it off and drill thru the plug u set, then kill the well.

i'm pretty sure when a cat 3 or 4 or 5 hurricane comes thru in a month or so that siphon pipe is gonna get knocked off.

it just seems cheezy to siphon the oil when they could stop it all together.

if u can fit a 'tophat', seems to me u could fit sum type of hydril type slip-over connection with a wide open bop on top. put it in place and close the bop.

maybe that's the plan after the tophat thingy, who knows. i just wish i could helpout sumhow.

I don't know that much about the drilling industry but it seems like BP is too worried about finding a way to save the oil coming out then just plugging the well and capping it off.

I believe 90% of all problems can be solved wit da proper explosives.......................


Includin dis one.

I believe 99.9 percent of the worlds problems can be solved here on MMT. DA I think you and a couple of other guys on here could get this problem resolved....if they would let you.
Randy

i just wish this spider bite on my leg would go away soon so i can go froggin. i'm so full of anti-bi-otics and loratab i am even more useless than normal!!!!!