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| Author: | WestEndAngler [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | What would you do? |
You pull up at 5AM & see some guys setting up on the far North end of the pond you pull up 800 yards South along the same bank & see a garage blind is open. Do you pull in & setup shop in another hunters blind on public water? Reason I'm asking is because a buddy of mine went through this 2 years ago. As to not make the owners upset he anchored 50 yards south of the blind then the blind owners pulled up 30 min before shooting time. Upset at my buddy for being in the area they made his hunt horrible & refused to cooperate. He left without killing a bird. They were short stopping his birds from the blind. Would you have moved to another location upon seeing that a hunter was in your northern spot at 5AM already & knowing the garage blind owners may come? Would you have taken the garage blind & said a big FU to whomever shows up trying to hunt it? What would you do if you were in a blind you didn't build & the owner showed up?... Assuming it's on public, navigable waterway. |
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| Author: | kibb [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | What would you do? |
What makes the northern spot his spot? I wouldn't have used the garage blind. I may have set up close to it depending what day of the week it was. If it was the three day weekend I would've just went somewhere else. |
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| Author: | Ruddyduck [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
If it was public hunting, how did anyone get away with building a stationary blind? I would have set up right next to the blind and called DNR if anyone tried to set up within 200 yards of me, blind or not. I wouldn't hunt anyone elses blind, but on public ground I don't let people get away with being a-holes either. What a cocky jerk showing up 30 min before shootin time and expecting everyone else to move! 
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| Author: | TXHC [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I would have tore down that blind and setup my layout. I would then call the GW and have him waiting on them douche bags. |
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| Author: | 3rd Coast Killer [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
First I would have tried to invite them to hunt with me, or me to hunt with them. Some of the most fun hunts I've ever been have occurred this way. If they don't accept the invite, and continue to be A holes as described, I'd probably move locations or pack it for the house. Not worth getting shot over some ducks, people are crazy sometimes. |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I've never hunted in yall's neck of the woods. Up here there is only a couple lakes that allow a permanent structure. I don't know the rules for all of them, but the one that I have hunted, the state owns everything. You can not build any new structure, but can "improve" an old abandoned one. You can go spend a thousand bucks fixing one up, replacing wood, and brushing it if you want to, but the state owns it. That means if someone beats you to your blind, you can't legally do anything about it. You can have your decoys set out and everything, if someone is in it when you get there, you can't do shit about it "legally". You can put your name on it, whatever you want, but the state owns it. |
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| Author: | UNCLE-J [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
If it is public land, then it is what it is. First come, first get it.. That is why when we build blinds, we usually build 3 or 4 of them. |
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| Author: | dguidry [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I would have spud down right next to it. When they showed up I would have moved more than 200 yards away or asked if I could hunt with them. Later I would have stopped by and dropped off 1/2 dozen decoys anonymously as thanks. I mean for $30 dollars you made duck hunting friends for life, IMHO. |
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| Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | What would you do? |
First off if you would have scouted the area you would have seen the big blind !! Then you never would have went their!! |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
Up here in easttexas u are supposed to be 1000 ft from an other hunter or blind me I would not set up less than the rules I have got there at 3 had someone set up close and I move I like to think that I take the high road because carma will get us And I drive a pd and approve this message |
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| Author: | POKER1 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I wouldn't get in another mans blind no matter the circumstances unless invited in. I may set up in the area if they are not hunting the blind but not actually get in it. Alot of dummy blinds get built just to keep others away and are never really hunted. What you really need to ask yourself is if you want to waist one of your limited hunting days pissing in the wind being set up next to someone who will just make your day miserable. Public land or not is it worth losing a day of hunting or piece of mind over. Id move on to another option. |
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| Author: | Brasso [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
On the local lake that I hunt on, you can build blinds with the permission of the lake authority, and can buy tags for them which is like $100 a year, which makes it so that nobody can hunt in it without your permission. So if you show up there and somones in it, they have to get out, and noone can hunt within 1000 feet of it as well... I love it. |
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| Author: | UNCLE-J [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
That is a really good idea. |
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| Author: | Rambeaux [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:43 pm ] |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
brasso a 100.00 ? i like the ideal of the permit but think there should be a limit on how many , if ya get a blind then ya should keep it up , the problem on this lake is there are so many blinds , some are just 1 4x4 in the water that u have to say away 1000 ft from the post because its concidered a blind . |
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| Author: | Brasso [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I'm probably wrong on the price, I cnt remember it might be more around 60. Yeah definitely, way to many blinds, but you don't have to stay 1000 feet away unless the people are hunting in it.. Mac, have you seen the new big open water blind on the left of 315 that smoke tried burning down? |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:20 pm ] |
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smoke ? the permits are 25 yr no i havent seen it |
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| Author: | Brasso [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
That was supposed to say somone* apparently lake authorities making their way out there and taking out the blinds without permits so if you still wanting to build out there I'd make sure to get a permit |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
i have been trying 2 yrs now lol |
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| Author: | lizard55033 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I would not have moved; but would have called the CO/DNR for a hunter harassment case. |
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| Author: | med [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
Well said poker. Not worth the hassle or burning a day. I make it a point to stay away from others. Hnted 5miles down the river and had some problems with another hunter setting up on me. I killed ducks bur not worth the hassle. The next time I went 10 miles up river. Sent from my iPhone 5 |
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| Author: | dozrya [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
This issue arrises with pop up blinds. Some people just go, "Lets go over there, I remember shooting a lot of birds there a few years ago" So they go at 430 in the am and don't notice a blind is actually built in the pond. They set up shop and a little while later, the guys who built the blind come. This happened to us two years ago for teal season. Was not a big deal. The guy in the pop up blind was a guy I worked with. They just never saw the blind. |
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
If there is an old blind on the lake and it hasn't been hunted out of in several years, I will brush it up and hunt out of it if there are birds in the area. It puts you in a tough spot though if you spend alot of time rebuilding and brushin the blind only to have the actual owners show up right before daylight with no gameplan at all. The one thing I can't stand is a person who hones in on shooting then shows up in that hole the next morning. |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
if i ever get to put 1 on the lake i will tell ya right now any one can hunt it i dont mine but dont tear it up , if i show up then if i got room then ya can hunt with me , but if i am full sorry ya got to leave . there are a few guys that stay on me to use thier blind during the week , but i will not hunt in anybodys blind with out them being there that just me |
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| Author: | RScar87 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
Public is PUBLIC  .. I love huntin it cause this shit happens all the time... i would have hunted it if there was birds there and if they was already in it then i would have went somewhere else i would have messed there hunt up cause u probably aint gone kill shit either if u got everybody jus sittin there havin a callin contest... But all of our public land u got to leave a certain time and if ur late then thats ur on damn fought
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| Author: | Migrator [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I think there are a lot of different situations that make for uncomfortable hunts. W/ boat blinds I have set up before daylight n the marsh and after killing a few birds heard some shots that sounded close and another group was 300 yrds from us. They had walked across an island and waded out and put decoys before daylight just around a point. We never heard them in outboard. We didn't try to cut them off and they did the same and we both killed birds. just happens sometimes. Try to be respectful and treat folks like you wanna be treated. |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
X2 on that And I drive a pd and approve this message |
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| Author: | Wilson [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:17 pm ] |
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| Author: | Team Camo [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
Assuming you're talking about Wallisville project, was the 1st spot he was going actually his blind, one of his buddy's, or just open water? If open water, move on & should've set up further away from the garage blind. If 1st spot was his or his buddy's blind, should've told those guys they needed to move or hunt with em. Sent from my Droid because I'm trying to be as cool as you someday. |
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| Author: | DeathMetalDukk [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
What the hell is a garage blind? And ya'll have some fukked up free for all hunting regulations down there. It ain't no wonder people don't get shot. We all know it's wrong, but it's legal to hunt that damn close to somebody? |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:21 am ] |
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| Author: | lil_catdaddy [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
If you hunt on public lakes in Texas, you should read up on the laws of the river authority the controls the body of water. They are not all the same. There rules are enforceable by the TPW. My advise, if you get peppered by someone in a permitted blind, you better get your ass to moving. If you deliberatly shoot at a person in a blind, your not going to get a ticket, your ass is going to jail! |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
Yeah, I don't hunt at lakes with permitted blinds. Most of the places I hunt, actually all of the places I hunt, do not allow any type of permanent structure, nor any structure than is left over night. Anything you pack in, has to be packed out with you. No cutting of natural vegetation either. |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
Wilson I see ur point but if I permit the blind and build it go through the time and an exp. Then I should have first right to it because I know where it is I hunting I can roll out a little later,i have been set a100 yrds from a blind did not see it owner came in late and I just moved and appl. For being so close. And I drive a pd and approve this message |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I don't see why you should be given preferential treatment. You show up late, you lose your spot, period. It's public hunting land, not your private land or lease. Don't see why you wasting your time putting up a permanent blind, should keep me from being able to set up anywhere I want with my more portable set up. If I scout, find birds, and set up in an area that you put up a blind, I don't see any reason why I should have to move when you show up two hours later. That's BS... We had a guy last year that was camping at a lake up here. I had been hunting the same spot for most of the season and they hunted my spot the day before. I was there at midnight the next day to get my spot. They were camping at the ramp, but I still got my spot. What your saying is that guy should have been able to get a permit, throw a few posts in the ground then show up a 6 o clock and tell me to move. Fuk that! |
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| Author: | med [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Re: What would you do? |
| Author: | Wilson [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:56 am ] |
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
I completely agree with CB, if you get to a hole first it is yours. although there should be some respect for the other hunters if they show up just right behind you and they had spent their time preparing the hole too. The lake I hunt on has probably 100 blinds on it, there are no permits, claiming rules,most are run down, abandoned, haven't or been brushed in several seasons and alot of people normally hunt whatever blinds they want but any brokedick out there can roll up at daylight and claim it's his blind, well if it is his he should lock it leave a note with phone number and current season date like I do on the couple I have. If I come to a spot of mine and people are there I will ask them to leave, but if it is one of those spots right off the channel everybody hunts I will leave (even though I try to steer clear of those spots.) I think the solution of it all is to use these mudmotors to get away from the crowds, get there early, and tell anybody else that shows up to get bent. |
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| Author: | tchredneck [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
if its public first come first serve, people do it to me I just return the favor, or option B is if they are there first or dont want to hunt there blind, short stop em, let their decoys help you out text book public hunting knowning wind and how the birds work in the area always help you. Now I have hunted with total strangers I had a buddy and there was only 2 others told em sorry we are here first but hop in we'll hunt together. no problems and quiet a few interesting folks out there! |
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| Author: | meterman3 [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would you do? |
wilson your point is taken , no i dont own the lake but the blind is mine , okay lets look at it like this your on a deer lease u clear lanes set up a blind plant food plots , you get up later cause you know where yer going and 1 of the other guys on the lease is in it , dont get me wrong guys i go out of my way to advoid situations but these are big blinds 4-8 people a little more than some post . These are handed down but i know yer point because i have scouted and the blind does not look like any one ever been there and i haved moved because thats the rules these blinds have got to have a metal tag nailed to it also |
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