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Author:  mrmallard13 [ Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:42 pm ]
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16 month old registered chocolate lab for sale...dad out of gator point kennels....hunted 1 season...does doubles but not on hand signals...4 months of training at wonderlab kennels...getting rid of him due to new job...I don't have time to work him anymore...asking $2500 obo




Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:36 pm ]
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Any reasonable offers will be considered

Author:  schmitt [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:38 pm ]
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location? housebroke?

Author:  barnes_53 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:52 pm ]
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Since he is out of Gator Point's kennels post up this ole boys UKC/AKC pedigree. Interested to see it.

Fine dog!

Author:  jerimiahw [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:18 pm ]
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awesome dogs i have a female from there she is 11 months and doing handsignals very good breed in my opion and not a bad price either

Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:20 pm ]
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I'm in taylorsville ms...I kept him inside until he was 6 months old but he's been outside ever since

Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:28 pm ]
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Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:32 pm ]
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Hate to hurt ur feelings there but there is nothing there worth 2500 it sounds like the 4 months of training was just enough to tell u he wasn't gonna make it

Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:37 pm ]
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Listen buddy if you're not interested go kick rocks...the dog does great but I don't want him to have to stay penned up all th time just because I work till dark everyday...no need for you to be jackin up my thread

Author:  tchauvin [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:41 pm ]
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Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:41 pm ]
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Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:44 pm ]
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Truth of what? Did you not read the original post? I do not have time to train him...I don't think working him 2 times a week is enough...the guy that trained him worked him everyday and I think that's the way it should be

Author:  tchauvin [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:44 pm ]
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Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:47 pm ]
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Author:  Ducaholic [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:47 pm ]
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NM

Author:  DUCK HEARSE [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:48 pm ]
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how about obeidence sit stay come heal forced fitch what has he been trained on and where are you located.

Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:49 pm ]
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Price range on a seasoned level dog 2500-5500 and that consists of hand signals,blind retrieves and whistle commands

Author:  jerimiahw [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:50 pm ]
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sounds like a started dog to me and they sell for around 2500 has the dog been force fetched

Author:  barnes_53 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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Is he UKC registered? If so do you have that pedigree certificate?

Author:  Kmoppert [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:56 pm ]
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Thanks kmoppert...the last thing I want is to get rid of him especially with the time and money I have invested but it's not fair to him to stay penned up all the time

Author:  jerimiahw [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:57 pm ]
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if u find a seasoned dog for 2500 u better be careful either somebody in a bind for money or dog aint worth further training but in 4 months of training trainer should have introduced hand signals depending on age of dog at time of training

Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:59 pm ]
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Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:03 pm ]
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Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:07 pm ]
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The only reason I'm askin tht is because that's what Bart said he could get me for him...I clearly stated I was open to any reasonable offers...I definitely do not want to give him away though...I'm losing money regardless of what he sells for if I even sell him

Author:  jerimiahw [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:13 pm ]
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if i were u id send him back to finish his training once u hunt with a dog and he is a part of ur family u will loose more than money if u sell it i couldnt put a price tag on mine

Author:  tchauvin [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:16 pm ]
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I think that "title hangin on his head" is overated!!!!! All dogs are different....

Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:17 pm ]
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I'm a broke college student that works a part time job everyday after school...I can't pay to send him back with the money I make

Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:22 pm ]
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Author:  tchauvin [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:23 pm ]
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Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:24 pm ]
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Author:  Kmoppert [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:26 pm ]
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Author:  Kmoppert [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:28 pm ]
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Mrmallard, my apologies for jacking your thread. I am sorry. I hope you find a good home for your good looking dog.

Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:33 pm ]
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Author:  mrmallard13 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:36 pm ]
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Thanks...hopefully someone will be interested in him...I hope everybody realizes I'm not trying to make money on him...if I would've known I wouldn't be able to work him I wouldn't have gotten him but after my parents got divorced I had to get an after school job to help pay for school and in doin so I lost all my free time to work the dog...sho happens

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Author:  barnes_53 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:47 pm ]
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Mr Mallard...here is how I would handle this because you are asking a lot of money for a dog. Face value it seems like highway robbery to the naked eye so you have to justify the price you are asking.

1. You have to remember the majority of the audience here are hunters. They are going to want to see the performance pedigree from AKC and UKC. It details a hunting pedigree. Most importantly, it details any titles or championships the dog has in its pedigree. This is the first indicator of the athleticism an hunting potential of the dog.

2. Secondly, I would post any health certifications the dog has. I didn't see any listed on AKCs website by searching the registration number. If the dog does not have any, post the health certifications of the parents.

3. I would talk to the trainer that you had him at and see if he is willing to field calls from potential buyers about the characteristics of the dog as it relates to temperament, trainability, drive to retrieve...all things that relate to this dog in the field as a duck dog that he observed in the four months of training. When you say he does doubles, is that double marked retrieves, double blinds, or retrieves two ducks at one time on his own? These are all important. Here is why: if he went to four months of "gun dog" training the first 3-4 months are basic training techniques to include obedience, force fetching, marked retrieves, decoy passes, boat time. The typical second 4 months of training include the advanced techniques such as casting from blind/boat, hand/whistle obedience, multiple marks/blinds, and increases in distance. So you reference "doubles" but he does not know no hand signals or whistles? See my point?

4. Lastly, you say the sire is out of Gator Point kennels. I have followed Gator Point kennels closely for quite a few years now. In fact, a lot of my bitches pedigree is out of Gator Point kennels. The confusing thing is that I do not see any of the dogs listed in three generations in the working retriever online pedigree database. A LOT of their dogs are listed there. I am not calling you a liar and I may have overlooked it, but if you're going to say the pedigree is Gator Point's then you need to be able to prove it. They are a top 5 chocolate breeder in the country and very well known with a very good reputation.

In closing, right now you asking for $2500 for the dog is very steep without being able to answer the above. You may have put your money into the dog to get trained for four months, but how long ago was that? How much did the dog retain? When was the last time he was worked on a consistent basis? Will a potential buyer have to bring the dog to a new trainer and start with obedience 101? I can tell you from experience that a 16 month old lab, a male at that, that has not been worked and has been kenneled with only 4 months of training is starting to get set in his ways and can be a bitch to "retrain". It becomes a dominance issue.

A few things to think about to help you sell your pup.

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