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Author:  byler11 [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:58 pm ]
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Whats a good method to get my dog on the whistle. Excersises yall think I should try?
Thanks
Author:  Pete14 [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:46 pm ]
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Author:  pintail_89 [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:57 am ]
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after i taught my dog sit, i put a chain choke collar on her and a leash and walked backwards facing her in my yard, every time i said sit, it was a chain tug and a single blow in the whistle, every time i said here, it was a chain tug and a multiple whistle blow.

it should work, worked for me
Author:  rcmannjr [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:01 am ]
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There are several good programs available to train your dog with. Wolters will work but it is somewhat antiquated. The newer popular training programs are:

Lardy - Total Retriever Training

Graham - Smartwork for Retrievers (maybe the best for someone training their 1st dog)

Stawski - Fowl Dogs

Buck
Author:  MNGunner [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:45 pm ]
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Author:  rcmannjr [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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[/quote]
For casting, have them sit and then when you send them do two blasts.
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Although there is nothing wrong with it, this is not the traditional way to cast a dog from a sit. Most handlers only use arm casts for this and not a whistle. Straight out for"over", straight up for "back", then whatever degree you need for an "angle back". Most use voice, with an arm cast to drive the dog back through suction (scent, decoys, etc).

Buck
Author:  MNGunner [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:22 pm ]
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Author:  rcmannjr [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:17 pm ]
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[/quote]
One blast = sit/stay
Two blasts = move (I also use that for "come-round" when hunting upland birds)
trill = come[/quote]


Like I said, there is nothing wrong with the two whistles with a cast. It just isn't really necessary and is not the way the vast majority of handlers do it.

Buck
Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:16 pm ]
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No actually there is a lot wrong with it it is very confusing for the dog


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Author:  pintail_89 [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:19 pm ]
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i only use the whistle for sit and here, i dont use it for anything else (in fear it will consfuse them)

what you mean "trill whistle"
Author:  AKA Freshwaterkilla [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:10 pm ]
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First off the whistle (tweet) = sit one , (tweet tweet tweet)= here here here same shit very understandable for a dog

Now casting hand signals (over) silent hand signal (angle backs) silent hand signals (left and right straight backs) verbal back to drive hard and dig straight back. Now say the dog past the bird and he's off line ten fifteen feet u would give a tweet tweet tweet here whistle with an over cast u never want to blow whistle for dog to move that sounds ignorant bull shit ;)


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Author:  pintail_89 [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:15 pm ]
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Author:  pintail_89 [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:15 pm ]
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Author:  pintail_89 [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:32 am ]
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Tell me what y'all think of this picture? ImageUploadedByTapatalk1374215544.824981.jpg
Author:  MNGunner [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:21 am ]
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Author:  rcmannjr [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:43 am ]
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One thing I've learned after years of running hunt tests and now field trials is that if the handler/trainer is consistent then the dogs usually do well, no matter how unconventional the methods.
I do agree that a toot-toot vs a trill could be confusing to the dog, especially at longer distances or with a wind. In field trials it is not unusual at all to be handling dogs on blinds that approach 500 yards. Certainly 300 - 400 yard blinds are very common. If you are hunting rice fields or bean fields those distances happen also.

Buck
Author:  MNGunner [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:54 am ]
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Author:  pintail_89 [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:55 pm ]
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Yea I'm goin to get it blown up. Didn't even realize I took it till I was scrolling through my phone. Check this painting out I got done of her ImageUploadedByTapatalk1374263743.842826.jpg
Author:  Podcast [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:10 pm ]
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Easiest I found is close ta pintail99. First when yer walkin teach em ta sit when ya stop. Next say sit as ya stop and blow the whistle. Repeat a few days of short sessions and then just use the whistle. Next step use just the whistle without the leash.
Author:  goosie119 [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:34 pm ]
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you can do it on check cord while you're doing basic obedience, tell them sit, single whistle blast, sit. another good way is when you start baseball to get the dog all fired up and then fake a throw towards second to get the dog moving that way, then give the single whistle blast. dog will sit and then throw towards whichever base you want, another single blast, and then the send them on the hand signal. you can do that for a few days until the dog starts to pop. by then the dog will be far enough along on hand signals that you can remote sit them at the pitchers mound and continue working on them.
Author:  pintail_89 [ Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:22 am ]
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Just took on my buddies 8month old yellow lab. Pretty much gotta start him from scratch. This sucker is one of the goofiest labs I have ever encountered. His paws are the size of my palm. Weighs 75lbs already. Gunna be a huge dog.
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