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pooldoo73
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Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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 Force Fetch
How long does it usually take to force fetch a young dog, if age matters? A week, a month?
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CCC
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Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:25 am Posts: 1685
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 Re: Force Fetch
How old is the dog?
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jerimiahw
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:10 pm Posts: 1191 Location: chauvin
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 Re: Force Fetch
Usually a week or two but it can take longer depends on dog u can usually start at 6 months if baby teeth are gone u must first do holding drills when u can walk the dog at heel with wooden dail in his mouth and he doesn't drop it u can start ur force fetch
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Force Fetch
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Force Fetch
Work long and hard on "hold", it will pay off in the end. When you think he has it down real good, spend a few more days on it.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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 Re: Force Fetch
Force fetch takes months and just use a bumper for hold is all u need u t trying to teach hold not trying to find something he doesn't want to hold
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Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:55 am |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:58 am |
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crawfordw2
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Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:57 pm Posts: 91 Location: Alabama
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 Re: Force Fetch
It depends on the dog's age and mentality. A dog that is stubborn keep your cool because it may take a while.
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Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:36 am |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Force Fetch
Also with my Boykin, when I was completely over the top with praise when she did something correctly, I saw improvement at a much more rapid pace.
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dfou
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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petrel
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Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:51 am Posts: 770 Location: NVA
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 Re: Force Fetch
A professional trainer quoted a month or better to force fetch my 2yr old lab. A buddy of mine who ran the field trial circuit agreed.
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Podcast
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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Double post
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Fowlweather80
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Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:03 pm Posts: 899 Location: Cent. FLA or Hell cause im surrounded by liberals
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 Re: Force Fetch
Are you using a table?toe hitch or just earpinch?
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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 Re: Force Fetch
Ear pinch is really the best way to go about my opinion if something ever happened to the ear the dog doesn't need it to retrieve but if u were to hurt a toe u r messing with the mechanics a dog actually uses to retrieve
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Fowlweather80
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brickgw
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Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:15 pm Posts: 2032
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 Re: Force Fetch
So, this is a dumb question but what is force fetch for? Right now my dog will pick up anything if I point and say "fetch it up". She'll hold on to it to, is that the goal of force fetch?
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Fowlweather80
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brickgw
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marsh mule
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:08 pm Posts: 663 Location: setx
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 Re: Force Fetch
My dog is just over a yr old, went to the lake and did some retrieves, and she would spit out the bumper at the waters edge or my feet, so I started FF. using a wooden dowel for now, no neg pressure, besides pushing my thumb in the bottom of her jaw and saying hold. After just 4 or 5 days, she's doin better. About 5-6 holds 30 sec each per day and stopped retrieves.
Just my .02
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dfou
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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This is force fetch 
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MuddyPat
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:30 pm Posts: 70 Location: St. Louis
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First and foremost, DO NOT do the force fetch before the dog has all of its permanent teeth. usually around 6 months but varies. You don't want to associate the pains of sore baby teeth with fetching. Make sure the obedience side of training is good first. Make it fun for the dog during the first 6 months then worry about force fetching. Ive had every dog I owned force fetched but, before i thought about it, I made sure the dog wanted to please and loved retrieving well before I FORCE trained. Its a great tool but go slow, you don't want to mess up a dog that your going to have for years to come. Like marsh mule said, his dog is responding well but she is a year old and has been retrieving for a long time.
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brickgw
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jerimiahw
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Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:10 pm Posts: 1191 Location: chauvin
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 Re: Force Fetch
I'm force fetching a 1 year old male right now his first day was yesterday he is already reaching below the table but he doesn't like pressure he will be easy and is a pleasure to train but a stubborn dog can make force fetch a bitch just keep the dog happy and all will go well
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pooldoo73
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Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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 Re: Force Fetch
My dog is a little over 6 months. She must b stubborn. Was retrieving well b4 starting FF. Now, well let's say, she is being difficult. She gonna take a minute,
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 Re: Force Fetch
_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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_________________ Wildberry "Between You, Will, DUCK HEARSE, and PODCAST I have trouble reading anything on here" 23GTR stage 2 by Calen pushin a 1746 Kliebert
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Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:54 am |
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MuddyPat
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:30 pm Posts: 70 Location: St. Louis
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 Re: Force Fetch
Stubborn dogs are the best ones to force fetch early. It lets them know where by stand in the pecking order and can make other training easier. Wish I could do it to my girlfriend. Force BJ. Let her know who's boss!
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