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Outdoor Joe
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:31 pm Posts: 8 Location: Galveston County, TX
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 Copperhead Questions
Been lookin at the 10hp copperheads for my 1436 jonboat and was wondering what some people who have run the motor thought about them. i plan on makin some long runs and goin through alot of soft mud
_________________ 1436 Grumman w/ 12 hp Coppertail
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Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:34 pm |
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Robn1020
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:09 pm Posts: 4232 Location: Cypress, TX
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
Anyone know if it would run on a final atack layout. Got a 40 lb. trolling motor on it now and it moves pretty good. The boat is rated for 5 hp. and weight should not be a problem.
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:56 am |
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muddoctor
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 649
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
Just got back from running in MS and TN with Cutt Down last week. We ran our 14 and 16 Prowlers with 12hp Copperheads in Cypress groves and in fresh, hard ice, about 1-1.25 thick. I was impressed. We did not need to run fast in the timber, just moving along with 2-3 man loads, would run up on a stump, just gas the motor and we would slide right over them. In the open areas we could step the boat with three men and gear. We also broke thought over 1" of hard ice running the lake over and back on Friday, it was 6 degrees Friday morning when I launched, motor ran great and held up in some cold rough conditions. I don't know if I would have wanted to break the ice and rebreak our way out with a lighter jon boat, but with our boats it did great. We have some video we will be posting up later in the week.
PW
_________________ Paul V. Willging - Owner Phowler Boat Company Illowa Marine
1701 Main Avenue, Clinton, Iowa 52732 563-242-8969 or cell 563-212-7091 email: larrys-prodrive@mchsi.com
http://www.larrysillowamarine.com
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:54 pm |
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WBG444
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:54 am Posts: 112 Location: Mineola Texas!
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
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16X60GD 27HP Surface Drive
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:34 pm |
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
If cutt down said it you can believe it!
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:36 pm |
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Outdoor Joe
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:31 pm Posts: 8 Location: Galveston County, TX
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
Anyone know how they get that kind of speed? I run a 15hp outboard on my 1436 and i get 12 mph max with just me, battery, and fuel tank and i keep hearing about 18-20 mph out of these things. I though MMs were supposed to be slower than outboards.
_________________ 1436 Grumman w/ 12 hp Coppertail
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:01 pm |
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muddoctor
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 649
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I am not sure what the secret is to these little motors, but they continue to impress the hell out of me. We did build the boats to match the motors and that is part of the equation, but we are seeing and hearing about similar speeds on all kinds of little boats. These Copperheads produce a ton of low end torque, you really feel it with the 12hp models, so they get the boats up and moving quickly.
I know alot of guys are calling bs, but anyone who knows me knows I don't post bs numbers. We are running the speeds we posted consistantly. Anyone who wants to dispute it, just get ahold of me or Cutt Down and let us take you for a ride, the proof is in the performance.
PW
_________________ Paul V. Willging - Owner Phowler Boat Company Illowa Marine
1701 Main Avenue, Clinton, Iowa 52732 563-242-8969 or cell 563-212-7091 email: larrys-prodrive@mchsi.com
http://www.larrysillowamarine.com
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Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:52 am |
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cmiller73
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:42 pm Posts: 2161 Location: Houma,LA
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
_________________ Copperhead 12Hp SD on 1442 Alweld
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Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:04 am |
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
I saw a guy down in Reggio with a phowler/copperhead rig and I was impressed with it.
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Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:52 pm |
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mw46
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:59 am Posts: 172 Location: mississippi
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
I'm seriously considering one, but I just can't see them taking 3000 dollars worth of abuse year after year
_________________ The coot fighter
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Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:04 pm |
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cmiller73
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:42 pm Posts: 2161 Location: Houma,LA
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
_________________ Copperhead 12Hp SD on 1442 Alweld
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:15 am |
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cmiller73
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:42 pm Posts: 2161 Location: Houma,LA
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_________________ Copperhead 12Hp SD on 1442 Alweld
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:29 am |
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autogateman
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
as far as the starter rope breaking- i saw a guy that put the synthetic winch cable on his pull start a while back. it looks like blue rope but is incredibly strong. just a thought
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:46 am |
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HUNT4DEER
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 833 Location: DODGIN ROCKS ON THE RIVER OR CARS ON THE INTERSTATE
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 Re: Copperhead Questions
sd vs outboard, ive never gps either but from the feel of the boats ide say my 14x48 with 23 sd will run with a 25 hp out board on the same boat. i have always said that hp to hp you are not giving up any speed when running a sd over an outboard.
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:38 am |
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Joe M
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:24 pm Posts: 1025 Location: Tyler, TX
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_________________ "You may all go to hell, as for me I'm going to Texas" D. Crockett
What is best in life?
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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