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Gros'bec
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:36 am Posts: 235 Location: Louisiana
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 Stage III longevity v/s stock
A stock engine is designed by engineers to run at certain limits with a certain fuel and oil etc. with those stock parts. Now if you replace the stock parts with high quality performace parts and good quality lubricants and don't run it like a manic all the tome. Shouldn't it last just as long. I know there will lots of variables, but how many hours have you guys with stage III motors been getting or should the question be how are they holding up? It sure is tempting to go stage III. I can only afford one boat and I love some more speed when traveling long distances like 15 miles or so, or just going for a ride.
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:11 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Stage III longevity v/s stock
First one 43 hrs Second one 172 hrs!!
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
Think of it like a house being built……It is only as good as its foundation. If you think the foundation will hold go for it! I’m sure you can build a 200HP motor out of a 35/36 briggs and run it for100 hours….but what RPM/LOAD will you run it at to get the 100hr desired mark.
Stage 3 has turned in to a slang term over the years to translate BOOM!! I’m sure over the next few months we will stop using the Stage 1,2,3 and start referring to them as HP/TQ rated motors. That way everyone is on the same page.
If you want the MAX out the potential just to say you did it go for it. You can put, heads, rods, pistons, carbs, blowers, etc..you name it you can do it just show me the money!
Good luck and have fun with it but I WOULD NOT DO IT! Let a fat chick sit on your face and send the money to so hooker in Compton!
Later JA
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:28 pm |
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garrettpearce
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 1436 Location: down da bayou
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:34 pm |
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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_________________ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:38 pm |
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
I don't know how they are holding up but I know of 2 mb7000's that had issues. One just had a cracked case the other a hole in the block. The one with the hole had some hours on it.
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:43 pm |
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garrettpearce
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 1436 Location: down da bayou
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:50 pm |
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Gros'bec
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:36 am Posts: 235 Location: Louisiana
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
May just start by doing the heads and see how I like it. Simple to do and won't break the bank. I do love my mudbuddy though. I don't have to worry about the reverse breaking.
_________________ 18x44 Gator Trax, Stage 2 Mudbuddy
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:17 pm |
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DuckHunterF250
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:32 pm Posts: 1801 Location: atlanta texas
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_________________ 1854 DeadFowl custom boat 35 GTR "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:20 pm |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
Another troll. 
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:24 pm |
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Woodiebuster
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
He just wants some answers, lord knows he cant get it over there on that dead site....
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(New Motor) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54733 Stumps Fear Me
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:35 pm |
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Gros'bec
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:36 am Posts: 235 Location: Louisiana
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
I ain't pro mudbuddy. I like all of them. This is what was on the boat when I bought it. It does run good though
_________________ 18x44 Gator Trax, Stage 2 Mudbuddy
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:04 pm |
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
You can modd it out all you want, just depends on how you drive it, i mean if you run 5500 -6000 WOT all the time yeah it'll last you maybe a month or so. But if you run it conservativly then it'll last you as long as you take care of it
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:46 pm |
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Gros'bec
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:36 am Posts: 235 Location: Louisiana
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
Well I figure a higher horsepower motor turning a higher gear with motor at a lower rpm would last longer than a stock motor running full throttle all the time to run a decent speed. Thanks for the responses.
_________________ 18x44 Gator Trax, Stage 2 Mudbuddy
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:38 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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wm
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Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 782 Location: Eau Claire Wi
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_________________ 1648 alumacraft with a 35 backwaterinc
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:02 pm |
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Gros'bec
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:36 am Posts: 235 Location: Louisiana
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
Why are you getting so upset . I was being sarcastic about the reverse. I wish I had one. I'm not trying to say "My motors better than everbody elses." All the brands use the same engines anyway. Just different lower units to get the power to the prop.
_________________ 18x44 Gator Trax, Stage 2 Mudbuddy
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:09 pm |
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Migrator
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 3227 Location: Black River, MS
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
I have a nice roping horse & he has a Lots of heart, power & can go & go. If u run him as hard as he can go & keep calling on him he will likely run himself to death. Moved motors r the same way. Just because ur motor has alot of power & torque doesnt mean it has to run to its limits. Stronger motor can get u on step quicker & allow u to run the motor @ an easier pace.
_________________ WC CUSTOM 20X54 Battleship w/ Gator Glide Pushed & Pulled hard by an HDR!
Don't be scared...Hit It and Hold It!!!
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:38 pm |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:49 pm |
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greg f
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 pm Posts: 490 Location: Mexifornia
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
Stock always runs well and reliable.
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:52 pm |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Always? Are you sure? Because i've seen different and got the pics to prove it.
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:55 pm |
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greg f
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 pm Posts: 490 Location: Mexifornia
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:05 pm |
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Woodiebuster
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
Picture time!!
I'll be right back with popcorn...
_________________ CSM Custom 18x42 Battleship with a 36 PD beating you to the hole My Rig (Old Motor) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45193
(New Motor) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54733 Stumps Fear Me
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:08 pm |
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wm
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 782 Location: Eau Claire Wi
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_________________ 1648 alumacraft with a 35 backwaterinc
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:10 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
Stock 36 w/ 324 hrs. stock connecting rod broke.
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:29 pm |
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greg f
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 pm Posts: 490 Location: Mexifornia
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
Would you have gotten the 300 plus hours out of that 36 w/ a stage 3 conversion?
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:41 pm |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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dog walker
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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Oh BB threw a pic in ya face nugga,accept defeat and bow down to the venitian mm god!!!!!!!
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:44 am |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:32 am |
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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My Stock cam wiped a lobe off at 93 hours.
_________________ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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Oh yeah, well my motor's stock & I've had no trouble at all from it. Of course, it's a stock MB 5000, so the mods were already there, but still, it's stock. 
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:42 am |
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Migrator
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Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 3227 Location: Black River, MS
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BB, what you say don't count. Anybody thats run down there knows Venice is MM HELL!  You got just enuf mud to make you think you can go but just eat the prop off yo shit. Camo, You got that ole raggled MB. That don't count either. Im over 100 hrs and most of them are to the firewall besides putting out or picking up decoys. LOL
_________________ WC CUSTOM 20X54 Battleship w/ Gator Glide Pushed & Pulled hard by an HDR!
Don't be scared...Hit It and Hold It!!!
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greg f
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:02 pm Posts: 490 Location: Mexifornia
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You HB's crack me up. All I said was a stock motor is more reliable than a modified one.
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:06 pm |
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pooldoo73
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Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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No, u said stock is always more reliable. That is not a true statement.
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Migrator
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 3227 Location: Black River, MS
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
_________________ WC CUSTOM 20X54 Battleship w/ Gator Glide Pushed & Pulled hard by an HDR!
Don't be scared...Hit It and Hold It!!!
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:56 pm |
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
We fixing to do my motor Migrate
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:58 pm |
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garrettpearce
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 1436 Location: down da bayou
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what all are you doing
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:00 pm |
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Migrator
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 3227 Location: Black River, MS
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
_________________ WC CUSTOM 20X54 Battleship w/ Gator Glide Pushed & Pulled hard by an HDR!
Don't be scared...Hit It and Hold It!!!
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:03 pm |
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: Stage III longevity v/s stock
No cowboy shit, changing out some rods pistons and cam, gonna try some stuff
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Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:49 am |
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