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cheesypoof
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:48 am Posts: 250
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 Paint durability
A year ago when it was time to paint my new boat, I read everything there was to read about paint on this forum. I scrubbed it with detergent, prepped with Alumiprep, primed with Zinc Chromate, and top coated with Duralux Duck boat green. One year later, the Duralux is very chalky while my buddies factory boat which was purchased around the same time and also roasted in the sun still looks new. So, what paint should I be using that won't get chalky so quickly? If I have to redo it again I will definitely look into getting a cover as well.
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| Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:15 pm |
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Barroll
MMT F.E.
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:19 am Posts: 932 Location: Georgia
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 Re: Paint durability
Duralux aluminum boat green. Search it. Lots of good results
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:08 am |
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cheesypoof
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:48 am Posts: 250
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 Re: Paint durability
Um. Did you actually read the post? Duralux green is what I used and it turned really chalky after a year.
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:12 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Paint durability
Call this guy and talk to him..Kevin Ledford 1 (337) 577-6813
Paints boats for pro-drive. He painted my skiff march 2010 and it still looks great. I'm sure he can help you out.
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:34 pm |
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bbb
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:54 pm Posts: 1554 Location: SW Georgia
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 Re: Paint durability
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:29 pm |
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CAJUN OUTLAW
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 2577
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 Re: Paint durability
um.did you actually read and follow the directions for application of the paint?
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:37 pm |
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T-Bubba
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:43 pm Posts: 3958 Location: Centerville, La
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 Re: Paint durability
I have the aluminum boat green...
if you used the duck boat green is has a flat finish that will turn chalky without a clearcoat
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:47 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Paint durability
Like hunters skiff
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:11 pm |
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T-Bubba
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:43 pm Posts: 3958 Location: Centerville, La
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 Re: Paint durability
hunters skiff could have paint that cost 100k a gallon and still look like shit after its first trip out.. LOL
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:14 pm |
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cheesypoof
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:48 am Posts: 250
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 Re: Paint durability
Apologies to the poster then because I did not specify that it was in fact the Aluminum boat green that I had used. All prep and application was followed to the letter btw.
Thanks for the suggestion on the KEM-400. Hopefully the Sherwin Williams near here will sell it since many Sherwin Williams stores do not sell their industrial coatings.
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:44 pm |
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UNCLE-J
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:26 am Posts: 10388 Location: S-Ville, LA
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 Paint durability
If you used aluminum boat green, there was NO Need for the Zinc primer as the paint is actually a Zinc Chromite Paint. Maybe too much zinc may be bad?
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| Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:42 am |
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T-Bubba
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:43 pm Posts: 3958 Location: Centerville, La
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 Re: Paint durability
i blasted my boat and used the aluminum boat green... came out good imo
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| Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:47 am |
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Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Paint durability
Why did you primer with zinc? No need for that.
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| Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:31 am |
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BoatDR
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 6:43 am Posts: 1604
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 Re: Paint durability
Everybody that I know that has used duralux has had the same results too.
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| Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:14 am |
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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| Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:49 am |
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cheesypoof
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:48 am Posts: 250
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 Re: Paint durability
I emailed the company that makes Duralux and they said that Aluminum Boat green does not contain zinc chromate. Here is the response:
"M736 Aluminum Boat Green contains no zinc chromate or other known carcinogens. This product is a solvent based vinyl designed to adhere to any hard to paint metal surfaces, e.g. aluminum, stainless steel, galvanized metal, copper, etc. Please see attached product data sheet."
In other words, Aluminum Boat Green is a vinyl based paint that sticks well enough that it does not REQUIRE primer. The reason to use zinc chromate was of course for corrosion protection and that is why I used it. I never said I did not have good results painting with it. My painting results were great. I only said that after a year in the sun it had turned chalky. Since I cannot easily get the KEM-400, I went ahead and washed, scuffed, sanded, hit bare areas with Alumiprep and slapped on another coat of Duralux. I will just have to cover the boat to protect it a little better and maybe some other year I will try the KEM-400.
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| Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:57 am |
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Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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What I don't understand, is why take a paint that is designed to stick to metal and ask it to stick to paint? Just out of curiosity... Not saying that's what caused your problem...
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| Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:01 am |
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cheesypoof
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:48 am Posts: 250
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 Re: Paint durability
The way I look at it is that most paint is designed to stick to paint otherwise you could not apply a second coat. I also still see it as a top coat that does not require a primer but any real industrial manufacturer would either alodine/epoxy basecoat or use a zinc chromate/phosphate primer. Most hunters I am sure would find that to be overkill. After all, I have a 34 year old aluminum boat that has been used in salt water all of its life with no paint at all.
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| Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:17 am |
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