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Shooting Winchester expert 12 ga #3 -4 steel shot out of my Browning Maxus. Thinking of trying the black cloud ammo with the special choke tube. Is it worth the money ???

Missing mostly teal and ringers in lake O in Florida.

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Nope..not worth it


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Try a lil more open choke and some 6 shot

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I wouldnt waste the money unless you have it , i shoot the cheapest shells i can find when shooting divers in florida, if i were you check out a patternmaster choke tubes they are pretty darn good from my experience ...

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kicks choke with heavy metal #4 black cloud is very dirty shell


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i use the kicks hf in a full.....#4's

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Post Re: 12 ga 3" question
I have a browning gold and I use snow goose black cloud and I can tell a difference. I definitely have less cripples, but I will say there is the occasional shot where its like the shot is messed up. Not to often but I did notice it when I did have to pick off the cripples. But then again shoot it in the head and the shell won't matter to much.


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no need to.....kicks states the full is for 20-50 yards and i can guarantee that it will reach out and knock em down.

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Rudy, final tally was 80 ringers. I used Federal blue box 3" #3 1 1/4 oz. loads. Bought a case from Rogers for $99.99- including shipping! Can't beat that price and they were duck killers! All the best, Raul

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X2 on the kicks...it does make a difference...


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Get away from them Xperts number one
Second go to number 6 steel I use modified choke ;)


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I use a Kicks Mod with Winchester Supreme 3" #3s, except for teal hunting, when I'll use the Kicks Imp Cyl with #4. I shot a couple boxes of Black Cloud a few seasons ago and found them to be extremely dirty shells and not pattern that well out of my guns.


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i shoot xtrema 2 and the hevi metal shells are awesome i just have trouble finding #6


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