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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Finally done! Stock ( for now ) Harbor Freight 212cc engine Direct drive 6ft shaft 7" SPS aluminum prop ( Dont hate unless you wanna buy me a stainless one!) 11 mph top speed by myself on a 14x36 Duracraft 10 mph loaded with 2 180lb guys and a spare 4 stroke engine I may try a larger SPS prop, their cheap enough to experiment with! Any mathmaticians on here that can determine if a bigger prop will help top end? Appreciate all the info on here about homemade builds cause everybody don't have the spare $$$$$$ to drop on a store bought unit.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:34 pm |
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Joel907
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Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:08 pm Posts: 42
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
How did you get a 7inch sps prop to fit a 3/4 threaded shaft?
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:32 pm |
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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
I had a machine shop make an adapter.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:09 pm |
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Mark F. Cheney
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Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:44 am Posts: 154 Location: Bountiful, Utah
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
I run a 7x5 prop with that engine if it is a straight drive with out a reduction to the drive shaft.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:41 pm |
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Trousertrout
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Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
You will have a SS prop soon. You didn't hit any fish,turtles,frogs or leaves on your test run. I know from experience.Think your prop is oversized now. Need to know rpms
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:59 pm |
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Joel907
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Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:08 pm Posts: 42
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
That's really neat so I take it screws on the shaft ? What's the other end look like I might have one built for mine so I can keep a back up prop in the boat.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:27 pm |
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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
I guess I need to pick up a tachometer. Think 7" may be too large for 7hp? It don't bog down at all. I find it kind of odd that it runs dang near the same speed Loaded down or empty. I would love to see a few more mph out of it eventually.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:36 pm |
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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Joel, the 3/4 shaft is smooth at both ends and through bolted with 1/4" grade 8 bolts and lock nuts. The pic of the adapter is before the hole was drilled.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:56 pm |
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Trousertrout
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Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
I would throw a 6 on there to see what happens. Like you said they are cheap so why not. The tach will tell all
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:40 pm |
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dogyak
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Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:26 am Posts: 192 Location: Northeast Florida
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
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Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:23 pm |
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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
I will try a 6" and see how it goes. I may be expecting too much for a 212cc pushing a 1436 Duracrft! What size boats are you pushing with a 6" prop? What's kind of speeds are you getting?
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:56 pm |
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Trousertrout
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Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
I had a 7" on a 13hp pushing a 1542 around 15mph with 2 guys,dog and decoys
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:08 pm |
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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
6" prop just came in! I hope to try it out this weekend and will post an update on speed rather It be slower or faster. If nothing else, I got a spare now.
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Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:43 am |
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goose-em
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Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:22 am Posts: 33 Location: Southeast Louisiana
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
I think you will find the 6 inch prop to small. Should have ordered the 6.5 inch.
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Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:46 pm |
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ghetto
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:21 pm |
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ghetto
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:42 pm |
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Trousertrout
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Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Natty light tall boyz. Woooooooooooooooooooo. Got my 2nd DUI thanks to those back in he day
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Looks good. What did you use for bushings and seals?
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:15 pm |
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ghetto
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Thanks. Seals and brass bushings from McMaster. Doesn't leak oil and shaft spins freely. I was going to change to bearings if the bushings didn't work but they work fine.
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:50 am |
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dillakilla12
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:28 am |
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ghetto
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
My boat weighs 100 pounds. So that's probably a big factor.
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:33 am |
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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Update....adjusted the throttle stop on the engine until right before the governor Kicks in and added a Cheap straight through exhaust. Loud at high RPM .Same 1436 boat with same 7 inch prop with about 200 extra pound in the Boat including my 5 year old son in the front........same GPS.......15 mph...getting better......
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:19 pm |
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mud slinger 69
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Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:27 pm Posts: 1194 Location: Utah
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Have ran it my yourself since the changes?
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:25 pm |
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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
That is today's speeds, 15 mph Pissed all the Bass Fisherman off! Sounds like a single cylinder Harley!
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:57 pm |
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DuckyStyle
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Mudslinger- Have ran it my yourself since the changes?
Ahhhh...by myself? No. I will have to try it when I don't have my son with me. Might see 16?
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:52 pm |
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DuckyStyle
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Joined: Sun May 05, 2013 8:46 pm Posts: 24 Location: NC
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Re: New Build....212cc 7 hp Predator longtail ( top speed? )
Oh, and nice build ghetto, I would love to try mine on a lighter/narrower boat and see what it does. I hope to evenually hit 20 mph
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:58 pm |
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