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In order to achieve a strategic goal in negotiations many times decisions must be made that do not sit well on the palate. Take the Paris Peace Accord, for instance, which resulted in the end the Vietnam War, for America at least, and the return of POWs. The US had to "eat crow" on that to achieve the return of our POWs. And, we lied to the South Vietnamese people in failing to support their defense effort with bombing should the North breach the accord, which they did and the rest is history. Our reputation as the peace keeper of the world was seriously damaged by that.

It makes no sense to me that If this soldier's intent was to exit the Army, he would choose to do it by being captured by the Taliban. If that is what happened I would give him the benefit of the doubt and say he may have been suffering from some mental illness induced by combat fatigue. We may find out about what really happened as he is debriefed. But any seasoned attorney would advise him not to speak to anyone.

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you're right about the whole thing not making any sense for sure and your history lesson from SE Asia.

I fear political leverage will be applied to make this guy into something he is not - just to spin this story, the investigation should shed more light on the story and we'll know more by what direction the Army goes after the investigation.

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Seeing this from Robert bergdahl and also hearing his speech at the white house where he ended it with praise for allah and the actions of Bowe around the time he deserted his fellow men. Makes one think they are muslim and possibly taliban sympathizers. He left his post and willfully walked into the enemies arms. He made the decision to be with that he rather be on the side of the terrorist.


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We will see...I saw this on USA today this morning

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again who wouldn't say anything do anything to get your own son/daughter back? yes I know what it looks like, but there still is un-answered question anbd we may never know the "truth".

This happens (Soldiers walk off their bases) more than you know over there -

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Baron, he posted that tweet AFTER his son was released...


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Combat fatigue after less than 2 months in country? Really? Dean this guy had a plan and followed through with it... you don't train on an Ak if you don't plan on using one..... you don't denounce your citizenship in order to fight the enemy..... While we are focused on this loser there is a real reason for the trade.... it's political and Bergdahl is just a pawn.... A front.... we will find out we also paid money for his release..... I bet releasing the 5 was a trade for peace through the withdrawl....The trade had nothing to do with bergdahl.....The trade was for something else..... fuck bergdahl, hopefully he will hang.

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Eljefe, you are 100% right.

To add to that, notice how President Fuckusall screws up and the crap starts to hit the fan... He deflects the attention by committing another screwup and everyone stops questioning the first problem. He is constantly screwing up, doing unlawful and unConstitutional actions, but he does them so frequently that no one can focus on anyone of then long enough to do anything. He is a perpetual train wreck and is purposely destroying this country.

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I don't mind the destruction of the government. He can't destroy the country. The government needs to be reset anyway.... Jefferson spoke about it being good for a republic. But back to bergdahl.... I wanna know what we traded for. And it's not a deserter. I can't tell you how disappointed in the government. The misleading propaganda is so obvious and elementary. And the news doesnt even question an alternative to this "prisoner swap" ..... The swap is the propaganda to cover other agreements or whatever....The 5 terrorist are supposed to stay in qutar for 1 year.... until we withdraw from Afghanistan. ... maybe the trade was for peace through the withdrawal so he can claim a victory..... I don't know. But there is more to it. Bergdahl.....fuck him he is a distraction .....

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Dguidry, where did you get your facts from regarding a documentary on the unit? I know personnally know some of the BN and BDE leadership at the time, so wondering where this documentary is.

Dguidry, I have 1st hand knowledge of events after the incident AND, two of the former Paratroopers who were killed in missions tied to his disappearance: SSG Murphrey served in my company back in 2003-2004 in Iraq with 1-325 AIR as well as SG Bowen who also served in 1-325 AIR during that timeframe as well. Let's ask their family as well?

Regarding someone else's comment regarding walking off of FOBs as a common occurence? Location of this platoon was not a FOB but rather a combat outpost COP and is NOT a common occurence as what Bergdahl allegedly committed.


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Rule number one to stay alive as a captive, especially with Taliban/al queada is to make yourself human and not an object of war. You must try to relate to your captors in any way you can? Especially learn their language and, yes, even profess to adopt their religion.

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DGuidry, that is your liberal take on it. That is not what they teach us I tell you that. I had the opportunity to attend SERE years back and I will tell you that is NOT what we are told to do.

You are trying to defend the president when he made a horrible decision even liberals are privately acknowledging. You have no experience in the military so stop trying to tell us how we should act. I won't tell you how to be a lawyer.


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Give in and turn over? Really? I thought it was kill or be killed. I learned something new.

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This topic just reminded me of a quote that I think is appropriate here:

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but the realization that some things are more important than your own fears."


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Geneva Convention rules regarding treatment of captives do not apply to the Taliban or Al Q. They are not a country nor affiliated with any, and I doubt they'd even comply if they were, anyway. The Taliban and Al Q prefer killing their captives. I believe Bergdhal did what he had to do to stay alive. None of us can guarantee how we'd act if we were captured. What he did actually worked for him. Remember his experience as a captive was a solitary one. He had no one else with whom to talk except his captors, for 5 years. Not to make light of this, but if some of you healthy young men were deserted on an island with 5 beautiful French women, I'm pretty sure that after 5 years you'd all be proficient in the language, too.

And, Pas Tout Las, my brother in law said he don't want you around no more because he's now a democrat, too.

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If they prefer killing their captives, why did they keep him so long? I'd call bullshit. Everyone agrees he walked out on everyone, but in his first video he says he was "lagging behind in patrol." Everyone also agrees he was not on "patrol." Listen to 1.55 in this video. At 9.10 he says he is "being treated better than a guest in an American household."

http://youtu.be/V8jR5CNIwIo

He had a plan and followed through. He was also able to make the videos to corroborate his story, but now the pieces are coming together.

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