It is currently Mon Apr 13, 2026 12:18 am




Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 
 coil pack? 
Author Message
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm
Posts: 2225
Location: Baytown, Tejas
Post coil pack?
Motor pretty much shit out on me hunting this evening. Was running wide open then lost all power and motor sounded completely different. Like it wasn't making power. Had to idle all the way back home but no matter where I had the throttle it wouldn't pass 1000 rpm. Once we got to the ramp it wouldn't start at all. Got home and checked the plugs to find one wasn't sparking. Took the other out and swaped sides and it sparked just fine. Compression was fine on both sides. So we ran to town And got 2 new plugs and got it to start again but it still sounded like it wasn't making any power....coil pack was a suggested problem but I'm not very "mechanically inclined" so no idea if that's it or not. Any input from anyone who knows a thing or two about these motors?

At least its the last weekend of the season..did cut my hunt tomorrow out of the picture though....


Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:42 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm
Posts: 3833
Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
Post Re: coil pack?
If it was a stock or CDI coil engine, I would tell you to disconnect the ground wire and then see if its firing. Not sure on the EFI how to diagnose a coil pack.

Do these things throw error codes that can be read or do you have to take it in to Briggs?

_________________
Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that


Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:59 am
Profile
MMT Addict
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am
Posts: 578
Location: North Pole, Alaska
Post Re: coil pack?
Pull the plug wires one at a time and see if it will start. If it starts on one and not the other the usual fix is a new coil. When you open things up, look for chaffed or loose wires in the off chance that could be the problem. Let us know what fixes it.

_________________
so many rivers, so little time


Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:42 am
Profile WWW
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm
Posts: 2225
Location: Baytown, Tejas
Post Re: coil pack?
Haven't got a chance to get into it yet but I tried to start it up again this morning after I got up and it sounded like the battery was dead? I don't know if it just died over night after cranking on it last night or what. And I know everything was turned off on it before I went to bed so I don't know why it did that...

Didn't miss anything hunting today though..the guys staying in the room next to us didn't fire a shot all morning


Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:25 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am
Posts: 6233
Location: Tarkington, TX
Post Re: coil pack?
It is under warranty Bring it to the Nearest service center.. EFI's are crank triggered ignition along with the ECU to Fire they cylinders. The coil packs are mounted to the intake manifold.

_________________
Bayou Surface Drive
337-351-0362
Tarkington, TX 77327


Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:38 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm
Posts: 2225
Location: Baytown, Tejas
Post Re: coil pack?
Talked to GT and they said most likely from what I described was a loose or disconnected push rod. I'll check that tomorrow when I have time to look at it if that's not it there's a Briggs shop down the road from me. I'm not inclined enough to get into the motor any further


Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:14 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am
Posts: 6233
Location: Tarkington, TX
Post Re: coil pack?

_________________
Bayou Surface Drive
337-351-0362
Tarkington, TX 77327


Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:29 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm
Posts: 2225
Location: Baytown, Tejas
Post Re: coil pack?
Ended up just taking it to the shop yesterday. Was ready this morning for pick up already. It was a disconnected rocker arm or a push rod, dont remember which she said it was but it was something disconnected lol. and gas in the oil.


Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:36 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm
Posts: 3214
Post Re: coil pack?


Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:21 pm
Profile
MMT Super Elite Member

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm
Posts: 16915
Location: Rowlett, TX
Post Re: coil pack?
Not keeping up with valve lash is what likely caused the rocker/push rod issue.

Fuel in the oil is likely from an over-pressurized fuel tank. Pushing fuel into the into the intake while the motor is sitting..it just seeps by the rings.


Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:36 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm
Posts: 2225
Location: Baytown, Tejas
Post Re: coil pack?


Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:02 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am
Posts: 6233
Location: Tarkington, TX
Post Re: coil pack?

_________________
Bayou Surface Drive
337-351-0362
Tarkington, TX 77327


Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:40 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm
Posts: 2225
Location: Baytown, Tejas
Post Re: coil pack?


Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:45 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm
Posts: 3214
Post Re: coil pack?


Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:50 pm
Profile
MMT Super Elite Member

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm
Posts: 16915
Location: Rowlett, TX
Post coil pack?
You dont need a reason to check valve lash. It should be part of your normal maintenance schedule and should be checked after the first few hours of run time on a new engine. If you would have checked it, you would have fixed it before it became an issue.

That makes sense on gas in the oil.

Turning the governor up likely helped you, flint.


Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:11 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm
Posts: 2225
Location: Baytown, Tejas
Post Re: coil pack?
To be completely honest, I couldn't even guess at how to check the valve lash much less reset it. I am not by any means close to mechanicaly inclined. I know how to keep everything greased, oiled down, oil changed, and put the key in it and drive it.


Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:27 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am
Posts: 6233
Location: Tarkington, TX
Post Re: coil pack?

_________________
Bayou Surface Drive
337-351-0362
Tarkington, TX 77327


Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:31 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm
Posts: 1447
Location: South central, ks
Post Re: coil pack?


Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:34 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:15 pm
Posts: 2032
Post Re: coil pack?
viewtopic.php?t=60645


Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:02 pm
Profile
MMT Super Elite Member

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm
Posts: 16915
Location: Rowlett, TX
Post Re: coil pack?


Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:21 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:17 pm
Posts: 2624
Location: League City, Texas. It's where I play.
Post Re: coil pack?

_________________

Kool-Aid Brigade


www.southernfowler.com


Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:44 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm
Posts: 2225
Location: Baytown, Tejas
Post Re: coil pack?


Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:14 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 22 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: