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Muddslanger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Valve cover vent leak!!!
Hey guys, I have a issue with oil blowing out my valve cover vent line on my 35 gdsd.. it started out small in the beginning and is now pretty thick when I'm at full throttle. I've got about 200 hrs on engine and have no idea where to start. Any ideas will be appreciated!
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| Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:13 pm |
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Will C
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Make sure it's not overfilled with the oil. Then possible headgasket failure, rings leaking or valvestem seals. Get a leakdown test done
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| Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:10 pm |
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Muddslanger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Ok.. definitely not over filled with oil! Was going to do a compression check, will that tell me anything? Motor runs like a top with no issues!
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| Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:42 pm |
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Will C
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Compression test may point you in right direction. Headgasket leaking is pretty common exspecially since your heads are now seasoned. they have changed shape a bit and likely are not perfectly flat anymore ,'likely leaking into lifter valley. Creating excessive crankcase pressure
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Muddslanger
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Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Thanks for the info will. I'll start with the compression test first!
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Also check valve seals as well as the drain port possibly being plugged. I have seen some gasket material get in there and prevent all the oil from draining back out of the top of the heads, thus pooling and have no where to go.
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Muddslanger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
With all that's said, if compression test or leak down test check out good would changing out all topend seals and gaskets be my solution?
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
You be surprised at how much blowby the stock rings allow past them. Most of your PSI will leak from them.
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Muddslanger
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Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Should I add rings to the list also, or is that normal?
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Do a leakdown. It will tell you where the issue is. Until then, asking questions will be fruitless, as they can all get answered with that. Our answers without that result are purely speculation.
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| Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:28 am |
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Muddslanger
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Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Ok gotcha
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
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tyler_johnson
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:22 pm Posts: 1094 Location: El Dorado-ish, AR
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
quick thread jack question, what is a good inexpensive leak down tester? if that is even possible.
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
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Muddslanger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
I seen them at harbor freight for 60
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Most of the people i know who've used the hf one with these little engines had no luck, including myself. Preston said the orifice is too large or something.
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
That otc works very well.
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
DA that's where I got mine aswell. Those numbers sound about right
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tmschuster
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Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:33 pm Posts: 23
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Just got done with the same problem. Mine was blowing a lot of oil by at higher RPMs. I ran it until I couldn't anymore. Started with 90 for compression and 3 weeks later it was officially done with 40. Motor was 2.5 years old and warranty had the dealer take it all apart. I just was sent a brand new motor yesterday, all the motor really needed was a new head gasket, it had couple hot spots in the motor but not too bad.
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| Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:04 am |
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Muddslanger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Ok guys, got the tester in and it's not looking to good! Regulated pressure was set at 90# before I do the test.
This is left cylinder with almost all the air coming from exhaust.
This is right cylinder with with air coming from oil cap and carb!
The readings don't go that far down to know percentage.. would you say motor is on its last leg?
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tyler_johnson
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:22 pm Posts: 1094 Location: El Dorado-ish, AR
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
I would honestly say you probably don't have it at TDC.
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
On the compression stroke. Valves have to be completely shut.
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Muddslanger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
It was for sure set at tdc.. had a guy help me
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
And leakage issues don't mean the motor is on it's last leg. If you have valve leakage, you do a valve job. If you have leakage at the pistons/rings, you hone and replace rings or go to .020 overs if there is a lot of scarring.
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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tyler_johnson
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:22 pm Posts: 1094 Location: El Dorado-ish, AR
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
I cheated and with air blowing out took a cheater bar and clutch engaged turned the prop until it wouldn't let me then removed air and turned back to that position and returned air to guage.
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Muddslanger
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Muddslanger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Ok I got it now.. this is left cylinder now with mostly air coming out of carb..
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Intake valve leak pal. Pull both heads and get a good Valve job done and your engine will run a lot better.
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Muddslanger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Thank you guys for all you're help!
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Muddslanger
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Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
I went back and made sure it was.. left cylinder wasn't and right cylinder was!! Thank y'all again
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
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MALLARDSX2
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Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:34 pm Posts: 978 Location: GA
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 Re: Valve cover vent leak!!!
Interesting advice on this post. Thanks for sharing this stuff.
50% leak down seems really high.
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| Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:37 am |
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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cb5331
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