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my name is mud!
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 lost a cylinderon 37efi
I lost a cylinder on a go devil 37efi and had to idle back to the boat ramp when I got home I did a pin out diagnostics and retrieved a code of p0336 which indicates a crankshaft position sensor noisy signal or no signal and no fuel to that dropped cylinder which from what I determined is it will not let the fuel injector open and send fuel to that piston I still have spark and my tiny tach reads out the rpm to the dead side which tells me there is no fuel present but would the crankshaft position sensor be bad? and how do I clear my codes out without the briggs code reader?
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| Mon May 29, 2017 12:09 am |
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TPerkins
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Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:59 pm Posts: 1793 Location: Clear Lake, Tx
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
I'd double check valve train. Make sure your lash and rod/rockers are all squared away.
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| Mon May 29, 2017 1:01 am |
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my name is mud!
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Also the engine is only a year old and has less than 10 hours on it
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Soooooo, why haven't you brought it in for warranty work?
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SETx Longtail
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Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
I'd check and make sure you haven't spit a pushrod. Mine has done it several times. Pretty easy fix on the water, but I'd take it in and let Briggs pay for it if you're having any issues while it's covered under their 3yr warranty period.
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my name is mud!
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Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:00 pm Posts: 13
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
well problem is no one in my area is familiar with the 37efi they tell me they cant help and im left with having to drive very far to get it serviced if I do,plus this just happened yesterday 5/28/2017
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SETx Longtail
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Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Crank it up, pull plug wires with it running to isolate the problem cylinder. Remove that valve cover. Repair....
Or just go ahead and pull both covers, because I'm sure the valve lash needs to be checked on the others. I'd be willing to bet you're missing a pushrod on one out of the 4 valves.
The crank position sensor is a common deal to be out of spec on the gap mine was from the factory. I wouldn't go chasing codes, start with simple visual stuff.
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
As they said check valvetrain first. On the crank sensor adjust down to .020 . Ive seen some over .040
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my name is mud!
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Ok i will check the valve train,the crankshaft sensor specs call for .030 but you are saying go with .020 will that be ok?
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| Mon May 29, 2017 1:09 pm |
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Yes. Bring it down to .020, this is per a briggs tech rep on a job i had a while back
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| Mon May 29, 2017 1:15 pm |
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my name is mud!
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
I found one of the rods had come loose from the seat the jam nut had backed all the way out and fell off i put it back on but what is the lash clearance for all four rod valves?
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my name is mud!
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brycecheramie
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
That'll do it!
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brickgw
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Damn!
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Russ
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
That looks familiar....doesnt it, ben?
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brycecheramie
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
I'd bring it into a service center, just so they have record of it. Hopefully no damage is done with it just being a push rod, but I don't know!
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my name is mud!
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Thats just it where i live I'm looking at around an hour of more drive to a dealer if then he knows anything about the 37 efi everyone i call says they don't work on that particular engine
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brycecheramie
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
I personally would make the drive. Or at least call around and see who works on them. Up to you obviously.
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
.005 intake .007 exhaust. It might be .008 on exhaust but it wont matter, good job finding it, now patch it up and roll on
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Once u set them roll it over a few times and recheck, u got this
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TPerkins
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Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:59 pm Posts: 1793 Location: Clear Lake, Tx
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Valve lash is tge same on any briggs as far as how you set it. EFI doesn't change how valve lash is set.
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Spec on carb motors is .004-.006, they loosened up the spec a little for the efi not that it matters
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my name is mud!
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
ok which one is intake and which one is exhaust both look to be aluminum if looking at the picture is intake left or right? and do I need to be tdc
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flint87
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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my name is mud!
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
serious? would that be curtain 1 or curtain 2 OH DEAR so many choices which one do I choose. Some of us are not mechanics so be polite.
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
A good memorial day laugh  when you go to lock that nut down dont put all the pressure twisting on the rocker, you will break the aluminum tabs off. Support the rocker as you lock it down
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| Mon May 29, 2017 5:32 pm |
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my name is mud!
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 lost a cylinderon 37efi
I did exactly that she runs like a champ better than new i believe
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: lost a cylinderon 37efi
Awesome! Sounds like you can set valves better than a 9 year old chinese boy! Glad you got it sorted out!
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SETx Longtail
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my name is mud!
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I can set valves better than a 9 year old Chinese boy because I'm a 14 year old American boy not bad for a kid huh bet i had all you thinking i was an adult huh
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kirk
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