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My first attempt at a scissor blind. I searched for boat clamps made by the now defunct Rock Solid Blind Company and finally found a set on Ebay. I was hoping to find the 90 deg. slip on pieces as well, but they didn't offer them on Ebay at the time. They now offer the kit with clamps and elbows... I highly recommend the kit vs all of the couplers that I had to use for a 10' plus blind. I'm still may spot weld the couplers once I see how they hold in the field. So far they are pretty solid with the extra supports I made. I have about $250 into this blind (including camo material) and it covers and area roughly of 11'x6'. I'll add more photos as I go along.


Measurements made, main frame assembled and painted. Blind material purchased. 20181003_151053-780x1040.jpg

The measurements are off a little from bow to stern as to match the boat fab line, hence the 'roughly' 11'x6'. It is narrower up front by about 7" but does not hinder function in any way and lays neatly on the top rail. Just an fyi if you decide to do the same.
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Material is a coated fabric that I picked up for $5/yard. Most places want $15-$17 at the time of this posting. I also purchased two cans of silicone spray sealant to coat the fabric with. I purchased 23 yards and should have enough left over to make both a motor and bow cover. We'll see as my sewing skills are limited. This will be interesting....


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I'm backing up one step to show the frame before it's painted and holes drilled. I'm using 3/4" emt and 1" schedule 40 pvc for the bracing pieces. Couplers are the weak link at this point, I'm not sure how they will fare but they were cheap and it's easy to take apart if need be at this point. I can always spot weld them if more stability is required. It helps to have a couple decoys and what not around to help prop things into place for measurements.... 20180928_161725-780x1040.jpg20180928_161718-780x1040.jpg20180928_161710-780x1040.jpg


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One more pic of the frame before paint.

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A close up of the 'front' facing strut. 1" pvc sched. 40 pipe with a three way elbow on the bottom, T on the top. That is a 3/4" T on the horizontal with a 1" facing vertical to accommodate the 3/4" emt and 1" pvc respectively...
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The rear supports and top swing arm haven't been added yet.

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Front support and Rock Solid Clamp.

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I will drill a few more holes in each side to allow for more of a vertical window if wanted. My cat 'Tater' is helping....

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Close up of the scissor pin. I'm not a big fan of all the weight sitting on that pin so I added front and rear support struts out of the pvc.

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A view full blind frame view.

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I wasn't impressed with how much sag this had in it with just the pins, again... added the pvc supports on front and back. What I did was not go by a specific measurement, but rather raised the rear rail until the front supports started to lose weight, then cut to that length. Not rocket science, but little tricks I found that worked well....
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Rear supports in, needing some paint...

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Top swing arm bracket

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Almost ready for camo cover...

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Looks like I'm doing some double shifts at work for the next day or so, but will be putting the material on soon and will share pics. Any questions or suggestions are welcome.


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For the life of me, I just don't understand why everyone overcomplicates these blind configurations. :roll: :roll: I don't see the need for the support bars to cross one another and to add all that extra hardware and weight. The original "scissor" concept was so much simpler and very functional without all the added hardware, weight, and complexity. I've built a number of these blinds throughout the years and have never had to use any vertical supports. I use 1/3 of the hardware and framing. I can only imagine how long it takes to deploy and take down one of these blinds. You surely realize that you won't be able to operate your motor with the blind up, right? That means every time you drift out of position due the wind pushing on the high-profile "sail" of the blind, you'll have to put the blind down just to motor back into position, chase down ducks, etc. Would never work in some of the areas I hunt where we have to chase down ducks in swift current. I can run my boat with blind up or two quick releases on either end of the blind and the blind is laying flat and I'm running the boat without the blind obstructing my vision and limiting our ability to retrieve ducks and dogs over the side in swift current. To each their own I guess. Some guys just like to tinker but I'd rather be hunting.

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I for one appreciate all the detailed photos. It's very close to what I plan to build, particularly with the back being higher than the front, and a roof panel that swings forward from the back.

I like the idea for the support bars and I'll offer a suggestion you might like. Instead of having those vertical supports with 90deg T's on the bottom, put a standard flat T and cut the top off of it to create a U-channel. Then just rest the U channel on the bottom bar of the blind. Doing this, I doubt you would even need the pins where the blind crosses. To put the blind down, simply life the blind, swing the vertical supports into the boat and slide them to the ends of the blind, and let it down. No locking pins.

You could even cut the PVC T not quite halfway in order to get it to snap on and hold slightly if you wanted to. Just some ideas.

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Had a blind like that once, hated it. Too tall, having the pins through the conduit was a terrible design and they broke and made the holes grow in the conduit. Just overall worst blind I had and I tossed it halfway through a season maybe 5 years ago. Also dude those giant coupling things you have in there will fail if they are the same ones I had. They will vibrate and flex the pipes and just die. Just run 1/2” conduit inside the 3/4” the entire length, add a wrap or two of duct tape to make sure the 1/2” has the same OD as the 3/4” ID and it’ll be stronger, then just use small screws to hold it together. Worker better and doesn’t catch blind material etc because it’s smooth.

Since using virtually the same blind design as you I’ve gone MUCH simpler, MUCH more low profile, and it’s way easier to deploy, much sturdier, and just flat out better. I’d bet everyone on here has tried a few different designs and their first 2-3 stunk. Live and learn.


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I fully understand the operation of the blind. As I said, I've made several over the years. It's not just a matter of "pulling two pins" as you claim. You have to pull the supports as well. See how you like pulling those pins once you get the blind wrapped in camo, etc and you have the extra weight hanging off the frame. Also see how much you love you and your dog having to climb over the all the framing and blind at both ends of the boat when the blind is in the down position. I'm sure you're in love with it. We'll see if you're still in love after a couple seasons. Like Bluesky and many others know, there's a lot simpler and easier design that uses way less material, hardware, etc. and is WAY more functional. Mine(which is on an 18' boat) deploys in less than 10 sec, drops down in 2 sec and I can take the blind off the boat in about 2 min. I can also run my boat with the blind in the up or down position and have an unobstructed walkway from the bow to the transom for walking and getting in and out.

Suit yourself. Like I said, I'm sure you're proud of it right now. Just remember I told you so when you hate it after 1 or 2 seasons.

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I will be putting the blind back on the boat to get ready for the season some time in the next week or so. When I do, I will post some pics.

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Looks pretty simple to me and came out very nice bro. I think you did a damn good job on it and I think it will function perfectly for you.


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I like the mesh camo. Is that rancho safari camo?


I saw this build. Its nicely done and looks sweet, but not what I was looking for for a few reasons.

A. This doesn't look practical for a dual purpose deer/duck hunting blind as you don't shoot straight up for deer.

B. I have a handicap friend who would have a hard time shooting over the rails.

C. Doesn't look fun in a down pour art 40 degrees...

You said you can drive with the blind up ,and that's cool. But I don't see you making anything other than very mild turns with that blind up.... Just a few of my observations. I see what you mean by a quick set up and take down but just not what I'm looking for. Thanks for the pictures.

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Fabric time... I used double sided fusible seam tape and a Semi flat felled stitch to connect the two pieces of fabric. It's suppose to retain 95% of the fabric strength and is highly water resistant. 20181011_193351-780x1040.jpg
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Seams are attached and ironed to seal them. Now off to sew. 20181011_211100-780x1040.jpg


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Wow, again.

Dude, your criticisms and air quotes concerning the dude's handicap are quite tunnel visioned. I know plenty of handicap people that are limited on how far they can raise their arms and would never be able to shoot up. I also hunt in quite a few places that shooting behind us isnt possible with a blind there or not so your open top design wouldn't gain me anything. His blind design would be fine in those situations. Regardless of rain gear, having a roof over our heads in the boat or blind is a nice convenience in many cases, and my boat blind has a roof that I can flip back when I dont want it.

I understand you may have figured out the magic blind design, but it's not the only way to do it, and I promise you that others would find flaw in your design for their purposes. Help him out with suggestions if you want, but kicking him in the nuts and telling him he doesnt have a clue is ignorant at best, and pure troll considering he's posted alot of pics and design information to at least attempt to help others figure out what they want to take from it, or leave. Point him to your blind thread if you think it's so great, but you havent bothered to do that yet.

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People really get butthurt when someone has an opposing opinion. It's ok, I see you are from CA, I understand why now. We don't get much sunshine here in Michigan, sooo...maybe stamp collecting....? Seriously, resort to personal attacks? Your intelligence is underwelming, at best...Try to be civil about it or simply don't respond..

You never answered if you used Rancho Safari camo? I like that stuff. I don't really have alot of time to make a proper response, but I'll give it a go....

Being that we aren't allowed (in this State) to shoot deer while they are swimming, I'll be ok with not seeing behind me as the opening will be facing the land, not the river... But I agree, it would be nice to have some kind of window or mesh behind me... perhaps down the road...

Like I mentioned before, if you are decoying birds and not pass shooting, not much need to shoot overhead. That is your style of hunting, I guess, not mine.... I will typically be tucked up against a river bank or cattails so again, shooting vertical is not needed .... Now if I decided to hunt Saginaw Bay or the like, I may add an adjustment in the blind closer to a V sight window, but I doubt it.

My buddy is able to get around, more than most actually. Standing up is not an option. Pit blinds are not common at all around here, never hunted out of them. We use layout blinds...

I'll have about the same drivability as yours when the blind is up, with exception of the top pivot arm, which will drop out of the way easily. I disagree with the number of people needed to put up the blind, but agree with a longer time frame of assembly to hunt, but that's ok. "Two seconds 'yours' " vs. one-minute' mine' is ok. I can deal with that.... The pivot t's slide on the rail, the fabric is attached with velcro strips, not permanently sewn on to the rail. It will allow the T's to move on the rail by about three feet in either direction. It's hard to explain but I can grab both rails and set them on the catwalk, slide them out, then do the same on the other side, then attach the pins, if I even want to attach the pins. I have found that even with fabric on, the pins are not needed...that could definitely change if wet. I can easily put this up by myself as it sits.

It will be interesting to see if the waterlogged fabric becomes too cumbersome. I will post my thoughts on this as time goes on... Another option would be a brown tarp with some kind of mesh camo attached. I was considering that but ran across this fabric with a poly backing for $5/yd. and couldn't pass it up. If any of this doesn't work like I anticipate I will definitely post it on here for others to see so they won't make the same mistakes and possibly recommend alternatives...

My goal here is to show what I'm building for others to work from. If they like what they see, great. If not, that's cool too. Mallards... if you don't like what I'm doing, that's fine. There are others who are interested in this style of blind.

I'll try to post more pictures of attaching the blind, etc.. I don't know if I can upload a video on here but I'll try that as well. I would like to show how it goes up and down in real time....

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I think the blinds posted look good. If y'all have discorse with each other's designs, post pics of what y'all shoot and let the man with more ducks be the winner. Mentioning that you hunt with someone handicap is irreverent since
Most do not.' I hunt with a dog, so my blinds are going to look different than peoples who don't hunt with a dog and don't need a ladder and all for the dog to get into. As long as you are having fun, it fits your needs, and you are killing some birds, it's a success, imo.


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20181012_205116-780x1040.jpgSome more pics. Nothing ground breaking other than sewing sucks and I'm not good at upholstery. A couple things to keep in mind if you decide to sew a cover. Upholstery threads and cheap sewing machines are not a good match. I finally got things dialed in for sewing, but once I added the Velcro strapping needles started breaking. I went through 3 heavy duty singer needles due to a inadequate machine. I'll be hand sewing the remaining Velcro straps...fun fun. If done again I would either pay an awning company to sew the cover, buy a heavier machine to do it properly, or go with a tarp backing and a grass overlay...


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I got my mother in law to do the sewing over thanksgiving a few years back for my wind and rain blocker. Worth it.


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It still looks good bro, I think it's going to work well. Hell, covering movement is 90 percent of the battle. Looks like that blind will donthat for sure


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Looks good to me. Where are you using it at?


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Yeah it's definitely going to help with the wind and make some some comfortable hunts when that cold north wind is puffing


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