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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 PULLING head from motor
Does anyone have a step by step instructional on this.
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:03 pm |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Hammer and chissel
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:13 pm |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
I'll need more direction than that.
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:25 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Pretty straight forward. Remove exhaust, cowling, carb intake and anything else in the way. Pull the valve covers and remove the push rods. Take bolts out and remove heads.
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:35 pm |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Thanks.The reason im doing this,is because i need to check for slag particles from muffler.Anything special that im pulling or removing once head is off? Also what is considered damage once inside?
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:56 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
If something fell in, it should be sitting on top the piston (hopefully) which you will be looking at when you pull the head. Might be another way of looking in without pulling the heads though. If you bottom out the piston you might be able to look in through the plug hole to see what your looking for.
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:59 pm |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
If so ,that would definitely be nice.
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:00 pm |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Any suggestions?
Is ther any way to check motor for mufller slag/damage without pulling heads?
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:21 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Not really other than what poker mentioned. Pull the spark plug and shine a light down in there. Rotate the crankshaft until the piston is at the top and look around. Not going to get a very good view so it may be worth your while to just pull the heads. Why do you think there is slag down in there?
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:48 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Just noticed he actually said to bottom out the piston. I was thinking you may get a better look with the piston up at the top, but maybe not...
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Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:54 pm |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
im not sure if anything is in there but my spark plug gap closed (3) times while running.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:31 am |
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stumpgrinder
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:04 pm Posts: 1438
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:06 am |
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hotdognjo
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Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:04 am Posts: 480 Location: Laplace, LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
So stumpy, How did you fix it?
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:12 am |
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stumpgrinder
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
I edited his quote... there is definitely something in there. lol
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:14 am |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
instructions anyone.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:21 am |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
This might sound funny but this is what I would try before pulling the head. Run to the store and get a pair of panty hose. Remove the spark plugs, stretch the pany hose around the back the motor aligning the legs with each cylinder/ spark plud holes, ( The pany hose will act as a net to catch what evers in there) Then spin that bitch over. If it hit the plug before it has a good chance of coming out !
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:27 am |
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stumpgrinder
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
not a bad idea.... or you can try to fish it out with a magnet, if whatever it is can pass through da plug hole
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I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:29 am |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Magnet! I didn't think of that! one of those small telescoping ones ( NOTE: Don't try tying one to a string!) it'll just stick to the walls. LOL
I'd try Stumps idea first!
I imagine its not to big or it would seem he would have more than a bent plug.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:34 am |
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kdog123
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
already tried magnet and blowing spark plug holes by turning over but nothing.I just hate to think its cleared and all of a sudden something bad happens.(nothing on magnet and did'nt feel anything on hand.) Can i just pull muffler off and pull plugs and blowout with air compressor? take a chance or pull head?
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:43 am |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
My last opinion is maybe see if swampsnyper can crawl up in there and have a look around for ya! Did you spin it over with out the plugs before or after you tried the magnet? or did you try the magnet first.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:50 am |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:28 am |
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DeathMetalDukk
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Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:50 pm Posts: 3777 Location: Knotts Island, North Carolina.
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
I would think that if there was something in there hitting your spark plug hard enough to close the gap, it would be a good idea to just take the head off anyway, to make sure it didn't score the cylinder walls or damage anything.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:49 am |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Okay, I see now I should have asked a single question.
I think you got it myboy, but its your shit. so if your still worried then pull the head. Better safe than sorry. You might call around to your local electrician/ store. They may have one of those camera snake thingys for seeing inside the walls ( I'm sure they'd help you out). I've also seen them for sale at Sam's warehouse. Buy it , use it, then return it! lol
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:51 am |
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kdog123
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
never thought of having a plumber look at motor. hahaaaa!
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:14 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:04 pm Posts: 1438
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
If you think you got it out at least do a compression test on it... I'd pull the head myself
_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:54 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Just make sure you have replacement head gaskets if you pull them off.
_________________ 18x48 Charles Leonard / 36PD
"I do think there is a Squatch in these woods"!!!!!
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:39 pm |
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shallow water master
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Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:27 pm Posts: 1803 Location: Belle Chasse La.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:55 pm |
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Tenpoint
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Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:22 pm Posts: 2029 Location: Patterson LA
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deadbird8
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Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
If you use a magnet Tilt the motor all around while you have it in there- Side to side and trimmed all the way down. A piece stuck in the bottom is hard to get at. We tried everthing to get this little gift from a stock muffler out of this cylinder and finally just removed the head. At a minimum take off your muffler. On this motor, there was a dime sized chunk sitting on the exhaust valve.
Cylinder wall wasn't bad, just reinstalled the head with new gaskets and put on a stainless muffler.
I think there is a head gasket set (intake, exhaust, head, valve cover)- I know there is a double head set with one part number that is cheaper than getting them all separately.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:24 pm |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Thanks yall. I got a small engine repairman pulling heads.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:38 pm |
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kdog123
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 38 Location: Meraux,LA
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 Re: PULLING head from motor
Pulled heads and found nothing. A little light surface scratching,but repairman said nothing to worry about. Just waiting on MM exhaust now.Thanks everyone for input.
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Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:01 am |
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