im wondering what you all know about 4500 black death hp? speed? whole shots if its worth it i have a 2008 23hp mini lite mudbuddy 50hrs and looking to up grade in some way it will be going on a 2008 war eagle 1648 have neo mats cabelas blind and full tank ,battery, usually 2 guys 1 dog 5dz dekes guns ammo 23 was fine until neo mats and blind were put on now either wont plane out or takes awhile or have will like normal but wondering if its worth putting mods on it or buy a new one and like the 4500 black death but how well does it work? or just get the 35hp or maybe other brand i just want my boat to get up and moving better wondering what you guys have for expierience with any of them THANKS

I have a Mudbuddy mini that i installed a 24 Honda on. It has lower gear ratio(was 18hp mini), I think around 1.47:1 . I got up on plane with myself, 185, son 170, another son, 180, cousin 200, stepson 50, another kid 40. I got up on a plane, maybe doing 18, 19 mph, did not have the gps. I am turning a 12x12 Godevil prop on that gear drive. By myself with minimal gear, it runs 24, and it is an old antique registration, 1542 flat with a few kinks on bottom, only thing i did was put Goop coat-it on bottom.
If you decide to sell the 23 mini let me know. Thanks

I got lucky with this motor and old boat combo. Best deal is boat was free, my Dad's old boat, motor costs me around 3 grand to put together. So for the $$$$$$$$$$ I spent I am thrilled.

so i'm kinda f'd on the 23hp?????? anybody have any other comments would really like to hear about 35hp or 4500 black death unless you have a hopped up 23

Do a search on here for user name filter. He had a souped up 23 that was running like a raped ape.

First- get rid of the neo mats- they suck water and are just extra weight you are carrying around (hydroturf is better- closed cell foam).

A 4500 BD is a 35 with heads and single carb. You have a 4300 rev limit on it but it would push my 1851F4 (800# boat) with my wife and son in the high 20's before I put a cam in it. Its got alot of power and would push your small boat well.

A 4500 BD is a 35 with heads and single carb. You have a 4300 rev limit on it but it would push my 1851F4 (800# boat) with my wife and son in the high 20's before I put a cam in it. Its got alot of power and would push your small boat well.[/quote]


I agree with deadbird8. My 4500 BD pushes my 1751 Excel with a load in high 20's also. Summer run I'm going to try another prop for better speed.

ive got a 23 mini on a 14x48. with two kids wife cooler and me were at about 800 lbs. its slow to get up but it will. and still run over the gravel bars. never had a gps on it so i dont know about speed. with just me i have to fill the live well and put all the gear in the front, or it will jump out of the water