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mudeagle
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:22 am Posts: 41
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 Teflon...Teflon...
Well my 36 pd on a 1854 prodrive with tapered chines with me (230), 6 gallons of gas, one batt, and spotlight/lifejackets etc is now only hitting 24mph. My hull is beat to he'll and hooked across the entire transom. I think filler and teflon are my only option. What kinda teflon are you guys going with? screw on or glue on and what thickness?
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:39 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: Teflon...Teflon...
Epoxy filler on etched aluminum. West System Epoxy.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:47 pm |
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mudeagle
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:22 am Posts: 41
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 Re: Teflon...Teflon...
under teflon or no teflon?.................... i just realized i put this in the reviews forums. Please Move.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:49 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:53 pm |
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mudeagle
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:22 am Posts: 41
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 Re: Teflon...Teflon...
Will it not chip off? I run 100% stumps. My boat is only 10 months old and looks like a sledgehammer went down it 300 times?
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:01 pm |
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Tenpoint
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:22 pm Posts: 2029 Location: Patterson LA
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:06 pm |
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HUNT4DEER
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 833 Location: DODGIN ROCKS ON THE RIVER OR CARS ON THE INTERSTATE
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1/2 inch? ive never seen that. 1/4 but not 1/2. that would weigh way to much. im still not sure about puttin it on a mud boat. you just dont have the hp to start with. on an air boat its going to rob hp. thats with 200-300 hp to start with. drop the starting hp to a 10th of that and approx the same amount of weight added and things just dont look good.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:39 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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I bet you won't waste your money on another 1/8th hull again. I learned my lesson the hard way, just as you did.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:19 pm |
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willett
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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it will help way more then you think.
Now that you've got the dents in it is the best time to fill in the dents with epoxy and then teflon or polymer.
Why is now the best time? Because you have stretched the aluminum so much now that when you hit stumps your dent will only get slightly bigger vs when your hull was brand new it made a huge dent.
If you fill it in now you it will last a lot longer than if you dont do it.
I see guys wanting to add teflon or polymer to a brand new boat, and thats all good for the use it was intended (to help run over vegetation and other stuff better) except when you run stumps. If you had put it on when the boat was brand new it definately would have helped your dents, but in the long run the aluminum bottom still would have dented just as bad, plus the teflon probably would have started either cracking/chipping or something.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:09 pm |
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MALLARDSX2
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:34 pm Posts: 978 Location: GA
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i have teflon istalled on my 1860 I think its .375" thick....
about 600 bolts hold it to the bottom...Went over about 100 gravel bars....no damage yet...
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Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:16 pm |
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HUNT4DEER
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 833 Location: DODGIN ROCKS ON THE RIVER OR CARS ON THE INTERSTATE
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gravel is where i would expect it to work best. we never had any prroblem with airboats w/o poly when in the water, mud and veg. it was when you ran dry ground or on sand rocks etc.. a good new bare gelcoat hull would run about at its best in the water or wet veg. slick bottom would give some protection and was mostly used to repair a worn gel bottom. it is slicker and would run dry better. ploy was a sacrafice used when you needed the most protection on a glass boat. it was always your best bet on alum boats as alum will not run dry. sticks like glue. the old way was to use steelflex to glue a thin stainless bottom to an alum boat. ive seen several boats with this but never seen how it was done. most of the boats were sleads or race boats. old timers said they will run with the ss bottom.
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Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:01 pm |
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Nathan
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:59 pm Posts: 98 Location: South Florida
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Problem with SS is it gets hot when running dry through the grass and will start to stick. Poly is the best for aluminum in grass and stumps. Down here we have a lot of lime rock ledges in some areas. That is where the SS shines.
Nathan
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Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:12 pm |
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HUNT4DEER
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 833 Location: DODGIN ROCKS ON THE RIVER OR CARS ON THE INTERSTATE
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ILL AGREE WITH THAT
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:13 pm |
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drake1
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:57 am Posts: 659
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Poly gets hot and sticky when running dry but we do not have to worry about that. Glue some .125" uhmw to the bottom after you fill in the dents.
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Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:10 am |
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diceman
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 409 Location: ct
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_________________ Life is like rolling the Dice
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Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:31 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:09 pm |
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diceman
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 409 Location: ct
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_________________ Life is like rolling the Dice
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Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:28 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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That's life dude, sometimes shit doesn't always work out the way it's supposed to.
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diceman
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 409 Location: ct
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_________________ Life is like rolling the Dice
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:54 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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I have probably the heaviest hull around and the Teflon/UHMW is since but it has its lifespan also. Running rivers with rocks it will only last a few years so be prepared to spend the money. I have a 9/16 thick hull with ¼” Teflon installed by Hoyt over at GT. It has about 200 hrs on it and has some nice cuts in it but it still performs like it did on day 1. I would look around to see what fastener is best for you (bolts or glue) if you can find someone to glue/epoxy it on for you and be able to remove it in a few years that might be best for you. I went with bolts because I did not want it to come off. With bolts involved when I have to replace my Teflon I will more than likely have to pay a welder to patch the holes and have new holes drilled and tapes. It all depends on the amount of corrosion on the existing holes.
.. I would not go with Teflon anything thinner than ¼”
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:29 pm |
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mudeagle
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:22 am Posts: 41
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 Re: Teflon...Teflon...
Where is the best place to get it?
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:28 pm |
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HUNT4DEER
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 833 Location: DODGIN ROCKS ON THE RIVER OR CARS ON THE INTERSTATE
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9/16 ? OR 3/16
if it is 9/16 ill bet it is heavy.
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:54 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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5/16 aluminum and 1/4 teflon.....I would call Hoyt at GT to get teflon.
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:17 pm |
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