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smboudreaux
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Joined: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:10 pm Posts: 162 Location: Addis, LA
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 why do these motor fail?
after reading through many pages here i'm beginning to understand that once you mod past a stage 1 setup the life span appears to drop of drastically. technically what is the common weak point? cracked block? thrown rod? valves dropping out? is the common cause the higher rpm's or are the motors unable to process out the added heat causing fatigue on internals of the cylinder sleeves themselves?
how many hours are the guys running stage 2 and stage 3 motors actually getting out of them?
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:47 pm |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: why do these motor fail?
The blocks can't seem to handle the compression. But there is no one reason being how they are modded so many different ways.
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:28 pm |
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smboudreaux
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Joined: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:10 pm Posts: 162 Location: Addis, LA
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 Re: why do these motor fail?
i noticed the new vangaurds have a sleeved block. i built turbo'd 4 bangers for a while. blocks not handling compression is nothing new. i know air cooled vs water cooled in apples and oranges but we'd sleeve sleeve open deck honda blocks before we'd slap a big turbo setup on it. in theory, since vanguard blocks are already sleeved, could the factory sleeve be pushed out, the block reamed and a thicker, stronger sleeve be pressed in?
have the blocks always been sleeved or is this something knew with the onset of the CDI era motors?
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:00 pm |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: why do these motor fail?
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:07 pm |
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: why do these motor fail?
Depends on the recipe used for the mods. You can get 100's of hours on motors with cams, pistons, c-rods, etc... The MB45 is a very reliable motor. Running race oil in them is recommended.
_________________ Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:08 pm |
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keystone light
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Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:04 pm Posts: 320 Location: Setx
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 Re: why do these motor fail?
What kind of race oil do you recommend deadbird? I have a mb 45 .
_________________ 17x50hd gator trax 45mag mb
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:16 pm |
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XGEN-DUCKMAN
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Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:51 pm Posts: 195 Location: BackWaters of Wisconsin
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 Re: why do these motor fail?
Seems like as soon as the compression starts getting over the 190's the issues arrive, that and as soon as you start running over 4600rpm's........ I put my 2nd 45mag through the paces and she did fine....... just keep her running under 4600rpms and you should be good..
As far as oil goes, a high zinc racing oil is what you want....anything that says "not for road use" racing oil...........10W30
_________________ If I can't Break it, it can't be Broke.............................
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:49 pm |
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