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swamp donkey
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Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:47 pm Posts: 17
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 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Hey guys -- short story - bought mb 35 cdi --- smoke and spit oil out of the muffler from day one --- mb replaced the power unit with a small upgrade fee to a mb 4500 (great service on turnaround) now with in 30 days later this one has lost a CAM -- what does the cam do ? coming from a small yamaha mainley background if over 25 years of outboard experiance - is this normal for mud motors to constantly have issues ? i now have approx. 5 hours on this unit -- it ran perfect the first 3 trips -- then it would not plane out and continues to spit back through carb . -- its under warranty - thats not my concern -- i have been through 2 motors (mainly putting around ) and still have not put the numbers on the new boat yet ... please advise --- get out now or learn to be a mechanic ?
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:03 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
You, my friend are a candidate for the lemon law remedy. Consult local attorney, seriously. You will have the option to get a brand new one off the shelf or your money back plus attorney fees and costs.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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HIGGS
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:21 am Posts: 38 Location: BATON ROUGE, LA
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
_________________ 23HP GO-DEVIL LT currently pushing a 1740 skiff "The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think."
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:19 pm |
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Beadlejuicejr
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:11 pm Posts: 1435 Location: Bayou vista, Louisiana
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Straight to sueing ppl wow!! Its under warranty so they gonna replace it. Also you just got some bad luck haha
_________________ stage 3 GTR screaming behind the 1848 Garrett Pearce special. GET YOU SOME!
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
That's not a mm issue it's a Briggs issue. MB should take care of it. I don't know if the 45 has the bps cam in it but it should be covered.
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:27 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
You don't want warranty repair you want brand new mm or your money back. Its been in the shop too long and too many times....its cursed. Or get a gatortail with you refund.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:44 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:47 pm |
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
It is an issue sometimes with the stock briggs cam. My stock cam flatted a lobe at 93 hours on a BONE stock engine. It happens moreso on the horizontals than verticals. This came from a Mower mechanic.
_________________ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:01 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Just buy the BPS cam for 300 bucks and put it in and you will be happier.
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:06 pm |
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swamp donkey
MMT Member
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:47 pm Posts: 17
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
not looking to sue anybody -- but is this what yall go through on a reg. basis ---- do not have the patience or the internal knowledge to replace the parts myself --- 6 hour round trip everytime this exspensive motor has to be looked at . I have approx. 8 miles of river and 3 miles of swamp creeks to run one way every time i hunt --- 22 to 25 miles at least 26 trips per duck season not counting any summer fun -- wondering if these things are going to handle the time --- thought they would be bullet proof --WTF
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:31 pm |
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Team Camo
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Yours is a fluke, this is NOT the norm. Let MB take care of it, they WILL make it right for ya.
_________________ 1846 GTB & 35 GTR Team Gator-Tail
Killer Kallz & ANGLE PORT dealer (409) 720-8949
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:53 pm |
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swamp donkey
MMT Member
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:47 pm Posts: 17
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
thanks for the pick me up -- where do I send the payment lol -- this is crazy to have it go bad twice
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:02 pm |
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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fowl habbit
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:52 pm Posts: 1130 Location: THE ONE AND ONLY BUFFALO COUNTY
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Yeah deffinetly not normal. Most these motors are tough as nails even after modding them out. Their is alot of guys on hear with a few hundred hours on motors with no problems. Hope you get it all worked out
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:20 pm |
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kibb
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:58 pm Posts: 2731 Location: Lafayette, LA
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
LEMON LAW? Are you serious? The dude said he had problems TWICE and they also had a GOOD TURNAROUND. How in the hell does a lemon law apply? I went through this with a truck, so please enlighten me.
_________________ 1644 WeldCraft / 27 GDLT Ranger R71 / 125 Merc
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:34 pm |
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drake1
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:57 am Posts: 659
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Got a CDI motor at the shop right now that has been nothing but a curse. Stage I motor that busted a sump cover, replaced it , went back out and within 1 hour bolts come out of sump, remove put lock tight , torque to 18 ftlbs gets 3 more hours and pops the bolts in the cover. It also has a hairline crack in the block as well. Now I am replacing the block and going to change the gear ratio to take some load off the engine. It is a big boat so just to much load being applied to the engine. I have been told that some stock CDI motors have popped the covers as well. My suggestion is GENERAC it!
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:37 pm |
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muddawgchuck
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Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:22 pm Posts: 959 Location: Spurger Tx.
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Man that sucks  . Like everyone has said we all know someone with several hundred hours and no problems. You may just have bad luck like me, my GTR trim went out at 3 hrs and its acting up again. Its just my karma i think lol GT and SETX performance have both been great with warranty work just sucks being without boat for awhile.
_________________ 18x54 WC custom 36PD EFI
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:58 pm |
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jordy
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:25 pm Posts: 1588 Location: South Louisiana
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muddawgchuck.....your avatar looks like shes pregnant.
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bpurvis
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Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:30 am Posts: 627 Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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_________________ Sold my Uncle-J and my PD so Fuc* Y'all!!!!!.
"THE EDGE: There is no honest way to explain it because, the only ones who know where it is have gone over. The others... the living, are those who've pushed their control as far as they felt they could handle and then pulled back or slowed down........BUT the edge is still out there...."
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:41 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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That could be a picture of his blow up doll with too much air in it. LOL
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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_________________ GTB 1860 w/ 2019 GTR40XD-HO
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muddawgchuck
MMT F.E.
Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:22 pm Posts: 959 Location: Spurger Tx.
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Lol sexy ain't she
_________________ 18x54 WC custom 36PD EFI
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jordy
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:25 pm Posts: 1588 Location: South Louisiana
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kibb
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:58 pm Posts: 2731 Location: Lafayette, LA
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Who's to say this guy who wrote that knows what the phuck he's talking about? Sounds like typical ninja bullchit to me. Kinda lame to sue someone after getting repairs only twice, both of which were of small downtime. Why offer warranties?
_________________ 1644 WeldCraft / 27 GDLT Ranger R71 / 125 Merc
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:28 pm |
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diceman
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Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 409 Location: ct
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_________________ Life is like rolling the Dice
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:32 pm |
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UNCLE-J
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Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:26 am Posts: 10388 Location: S-Ville, LA
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 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Dguidry...
DO NOT EVER come around me or my property!!!!!
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:41 pm |
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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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_________________ CSM Custom 18x42 Battleship with a 36 PD beating you to the hole My Rig (Old Motor) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45193
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:43 pm |
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BradS
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:23 am Posts: 4514 Location: Lafayette, La
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UNCLE-J
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Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:26 am Posts: 10388 Location: S-Ville, LA
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:16 pm |
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jordy
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:25 pm Posts: 1588 Location: South Louisiana
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
again i think dguidry does this shit to get a rise out of all of us......he gets a woodie off of this shit when we start posting all the phuck you, phuck this phuck that bs bc he disappears to go beat his meat to aggrivating and pissin off people.............carry on guys.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:36 pm |
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dog walker
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Da pussy on dem fat chicks is good and they work harder for that creamy filling LOL
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:01 pm |
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swamp donkey
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Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:47 pm Posts: 17
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
spoke to the dealer today -- intends on putting a stock cam back in --- is their something harder or is one cam the same as any other -- carbon steel is carbon steel or is one hardened more
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:10 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Ask him how much he'd charge ya to upgrade to a BPS cam, or if it's even an option.
_________________ 1846 GTB & 35 GTR Team Gator-Tail
Killer Kallz & ANGLE PORT dealer (409) 720-8949
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:18 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: 2 motors tore up within 60 days questions ????
Stock cams are weak....re-welded cams are a lot harder.
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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