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For a 36 PD could a larger motorcycle battery be used to start the motor? I was wondering cause it's alot less weight to carry than a standard deep cycle marine battery.


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It would make a great back up, other than that I wouldn't trust it.


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I am trying to decide what size batteries I need as well. Trying to go as light a possible without breaking the bank. Probably going with Deka brand.

One will be for engine, bilge, and running lights.

The other will be for stereo, swamp lights, winch.

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I run the smallest car battery Walmart has, have had no issues

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Thanks guys....Appreciate the input.


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I've run Sam's club garden tractor batteries for years with no problems. On long trips I do take a spare battery because I'm old and forgetful. If you leave a key or bilge pump on overnight it won't matter much what size your main battery is and you will be happy you have a spare. I also carry a cheap set of jumper cables in my "possibles" box. So far I've only needed them to start others, but my chance is coming.

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Different charging systems.


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O, can you tell me what the difference is? I'm curious now...

Is it that the motorcyle recovers the charge at a faster rate?

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I'm not familiar with the charging system on a bike, but know for certain it is different than the one we have on our engines. The cdi motors have a decent charging system 20a at idle on up to 50a at full output. The older engines have no output at idle and I think around 20a at full output. I believe the stator on a bike is inside the block, where ours is mounted outside under the flywheel, but I am not familiar with their output ratings.


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The clutch alone draws 20 amps!! So if your idling alot and using trim auto reverse it can draw a battery!!

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If I remember right Hoyt told me that but I could be wrong.

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I'd go put a meter on mine, but don't really want to now. Over 10amps will pop my meter. lol I've been told somewhere in the 4-10 range. 20amps is a pretty hefty draw.


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Actually I think the charging systems on a H-D are very simular to that of a MM V-Twin. This article explains the H-D charging system. http://www.harleyhowto.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338
I do however think that the H-D charging system may have a higher amperage output than that on a MM. I just put a new battery on my Fatboy and you would be amazed at the price. $87 and that was the cheapest one I could find. One from Harley is around $125+ so I'm not sure that there is any cost savings going with a motorcycle battery, weight savings yes.

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The compression on alot of custom harleys is way more than a MM. My friend has a BMW touring bike and that thing has everything imaginable on it.....sat radio, cd player, air suspension, ect, so I figured it might work on a MM.


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It is 20 amps.

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Would a smaller battery have enough power to turn the motor over.


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So it sounds like I should get a small auto starting battery for the motor and a small deep cycle for the accessories?

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I text Hoyt to make sure that is what he told me !! 20 amps

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http://www.messicks.com/Articles/Fixing ... lutch.aspx
Second paragraph. Seems like they draw aboout 3.5 amps ISh

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http://www.ganos.com/electricclutchtesting.pdf
Another link, this one is showing about 4 amps of current draw.

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GD's don't have those clutch drainin the battery problems at all..........jus sayin :mrgreen:

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I have two batteries. I keep a small lawn mower battery in the bow for a backup.

My engine burned a plug and quit charging my battery and eventually drained it. I was lucky because I was very close to my camp.

the day before I was in lillies two feet high about two miles from the nearest bayou and almost turned my motor off several times while scouting for ducks, glad I didn't- I would have been like chuck!

always bring a spare.


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Thanks for the input guys


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i have a deep cycle battery thats the size of a tractor battery. might be something to look into


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I'm running a Group 24 hybrid marine Deep Cell/ Cranking battery from auto zone that's been great. I've had a set for 3 years in my offshore boat that are still perfect.

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Get yourself a Optima ;)

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