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Haywood
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:55 pm Posts: 21 Location: Mississippi
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 River running
I have never navigated a river by myself and defiantly never navigated in total darkness, how do you do it? I mean I know you have swamp lights and maybe a headlamp, but you just go a decent speed and dodge what is in the way and hope you don't hit anything? I have been living next to a decent size little river about 30-40ft wide for almost 3 years and i really want to get in there to do some various types of hunting and fishing, first thing I want the right rig, but then I would need to know how not to tear it up traveling up/down the river.
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Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:13 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: River running
You need stick time with an experienced hunter or someone familiar with that river first. I wouldn't venture it by myself. The content of your question tells me it would be a dangerous proposition for you.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:42 am |
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kibb
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:58 pm Posts: 2731 Location: Lafayette, LA
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 River running
Describe said river in more detail.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:56 am |
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fishon!!
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:52 pm Posts: 339 Location: Capital Shity, LA
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 Re: River running
*with directions from the launch to where you are going.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:36 am |
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Woodiebuster
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: River running
30-40 feet wide isn't a river!
Is it deep? Is there other boat traffic? Are there a lot of hairpin curves and swift current?
On the bayous that size, depending on how familiar I am with it I like to at least be on step. If your boat is square chine, it will take some adjustments to get used to it sliding at high speeds when you corner
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:37 am |
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fowl habbit
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:52 pm Posts: 1130 Location: THE ONE AND ONLY BUFFALO COUNTY
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 Re: River running
Honestly if you can get away with it.. Run it with no lights on at all. I usally turn all my lights off and can see way better then when they are on. The lights give off a glare that hurts my eyes and I have found I can drive in the dark alot better when they are offf
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:10 am |
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smash
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri May 06, 2011 10:18 am Posts: 144
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:30 am |
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BASSMASTER
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 1091 Location: TX
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 Re: River running
run it during the day until you can do it with your eyes closed, then you u can do it with a qbeam and a gps if you get lose easy.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:39 am |
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Haywood
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:55 pm Posts: 21 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: River running
I am defiantly an inexperienced river runner, all I have ever done is fished in lakes and traveled the waterway to get on the Core Land, I just now started hunting/fishing around the waterway. I would like to get into the hard spots in between the old river and the waterway which is Core Land and is much easier to get their using the old river. The old river is a meandering with a mild current. I have been in it once with a 1436 regular outboard. We traveled about a mile down stream and we probably crossed over one log but it was really too shallow for an outboard. We used the heck out of the jack plate. I want something small enough to get in this river, but big enough to travel around the waterway and other lakes of choice.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:53 am |
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redleg3316
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:06 pm Posts: 414 Location: MS / were ever da rig floats
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 Re: River running
I know which river your talking about. I live in Amory and run it and others all year long. PM me and Ill be glad to show you the ropes.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:01 am |
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petrel
MMT F.E.
Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:51 am Posts: 770 Location: NVA
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 Re: River running
As the previous posters indicated, run it during the day first. Get a handheld GPS and lay down a track plot during daylight and use it for reference in the dark.
I am not a big fan of running with lights. I find that so long as I give my eyes a chance to adjust to the darkness and don't expose them to any lightsources while underway, I can see all but the smallest branches in the water. However, I always assume that I will hit a log or a lay over, so I adjust my speed accordingly.
If there are docks, net stakes, old pilings or bulkheads on the river, think about buying a few of those little tack on reflectors and marking them as high as you can. If the reflectors are high enough, rising water won't muddy them, and your stern light will be just enough light to illuminate them as you approach.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:06 am |
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Haywood
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:55 pm Posts: 21 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: River running
appreciate the advice guys!
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:08 am |
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POKER1
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: River running
He'll that's nothing more than a racetrac. Just keep that mofo between the banks and you can't go wrong.  Some things are inherent while others are learned. Some of us have a photographic memory for detail and see things others never will. If I can ride it in the daylight once I can get back there again in the pitch black of night. Some folks couldn't return to a spot being towed by a guide. I prefer no lights when river running and see better that way. Otherwise a hardhat light can't be beat. But absolutely nothing will give your more confidence than to get out there and see it for yourself. Buyer take it slow and be cautious. And you will be fine. In not then it's just natures way of culling out those that should have taken up another sport. 
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:36 am |
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BASSMASTER
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 1091 Location: TX
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 Re: River running
wait until you get to the ramp to go hunting and fog is so thick you can't see the ramp.. that's when it gets fun that's when a smart phone with maps or a good handheld gps is good.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:46 am |
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Will
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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 Re: River running
I used nightvision goggle  phuck a light 
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:08 am |
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Duckdon
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:32 pm Posts: 407 Location: Chugiak, Alaska
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 Re: River running
Hayward..I would be very careful running rivers in the dark. Get use to the feel of your boat and your load in the daylight. Get lots of "stick time" and then venture out at night slowly "but" with power for control. I don't have a clue on your rivers but some of ours are serious and fast, 7 to 12 miles per hour, with "sweepers" that will swamp you in a heart beat if your off your game. River boat traffic is almost non-existant where we run but is a consideration. Make sure your motor is running in top shape so you don't loose power. Loss of power coming into the inside curves can get you killed. Class 3 white water is not uncommon for us so we do little night time running. I like a head lamp so I have light where I am looking but still it's dicy at best. Keep your heavy anchor on a long line and ready to set if you get into trouble and before you get into a real bind. NEVER let your guard down on the inside curves when sweepers are present.............. Duckdon
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:55 pm |
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redleg3316
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:06 pm Posts: 414 Location: MS / were ever da rig floats
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 Re: River running
The river he is refering to is pretty calm but after a good rain it floods out and shift logs all around so NEVER run at night after a flood due to the fact that the river "maze" has changed.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:00 pm |
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DeathMetalDukk
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:50 pm Posts: 3777 Location: Knotts Island, North Carolina.
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You should fish this river in the daylight until you are comfortable and know it very well. I kinda think of fishing as "exploration season"
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Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:40 am |
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BROOKS
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:46 pm Posts: 4596 Location: East TEXAN Proud
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 Re: River running
Remember this ..... 'specially on a smaller type river like that ..... goin' up stream is mo fogiven than goin' down stream !!!
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Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:30 am |
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stualaska
MMT Addict
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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 Re: River running
[quote="BROOKS".. goin' up stream is mo fogiven than goin' down stream !!![/quote]
That is so true, on so many levels, it is almost profound!!! I'm thinking of having that carved on my tombstone. Thanks, Brooks.
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Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:27 am |
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Duckdon
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:32 pm Posts: 407 Location: Chugiak, Alaska
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 Re: River running
Brooks, Well spoken.......and so damm true. Stu.......Anything you ain't telling us? Duckdon
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Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:30 am |
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