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Missourimudrunner
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Just bought a used prodrive 36. And not to mention poor Maintenance. The locking pin on the reverse does not lock in to place to rotate it back around. Help what the problem!?
_________________ 2072 Gatortail extreme with dual 35s GTRs
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:05 pm |
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duckduckboom
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
pull the pin out and see if something is in the spring
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:10 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
The pin itself is easily able to be pulled. The spring inside allows the pin to be pulled out and retract but when I push motor to the side to pull the pin it just feels like there is nothing for it to lock into.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:15 pm |
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Pull pin and push handle...it should rachete around... there is a tensioner screw that holds lu so it dosent turn back with the handle.
_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:20 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
I tried just pulling pin and ratcheting motor but still nothing. It just continues to freely pivot like I'm steering
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:24 pm |
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med
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
It work when you went to buy it or did ya not try it?
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:27 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
It was a great price so I had it shipped to me. Everything else works except that.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:36 pm |
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autogateman
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
is the lower unit turning when you turn the handle, or just the engine??
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:37 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Lower unit turns no matter if pin is pulled or not
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:47 pm |
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duckduckboom
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Pull the pin and move the Lu with your foot
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:50 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Will that break it free?
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:53 pm |
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autogateman
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
tighten the black knob on the lower unit and see if it still spins when you pull the pin
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:03 pm |
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naj
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1620 Location: Larose, Louisiana
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Make sure the tension knob is snug.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:04 pm |
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mizzippi jb
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
you need a little mud or something to hold the lower unit in place. Mine doesn't do so well trying to just put it in reverse from the boat. But when the skeg is held by a little pressure, it works fine. Have a buddy hold it or tie the LU off to something.
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
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BoatDR
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Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 6:43 am Posts: 1604
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:07 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Just relatized that above that black knob there is a threaded hole, it looks like a bolt goes in there. My motor has no bolt in it, pretty sure it's important, does it affect the reverse
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:43 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Thanks guys! I got it! Now where is the lower unit drain plug and where is the fill plug, and how much oil?
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:51 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Go to prodrives website and look at the owners manual
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:54 pm |
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mizzippi jb
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
you prob. won't ever find the upper plug for the 90 wt. if you don't look at the manual.
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:04 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Thanks guys! You all really helped me Alot!
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:17 pm |
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naj
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1620 Location: Larose, Louisiana
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
_________________ 18' X 48" Center Console Sportsman Fab with a Yamaha F70LA 18' X 48" Center Console Sportsman Fab Dragging a 36hp ProDrive 15' X 42" Sea Arch with a 27hp ProDrive
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med
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Glad you got it figured out and that its not jacked up
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:24 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
I will post a pic of the bolt hole soon, really appreciate it guys!
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:45 pm |
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marshman32
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:43 pm Posts: 1
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
I have had this happen before if the bolt just in front of the pin lock is new or looks new then that is the reason that it does not work. if that bolt breaks while the previous owner is trying to go into reverse it will brake the locking pin for the reverse. Some times the handle will fall out and will need replacement. But if they cought it in time the pin is sheared and needs replacement. Unlock the allen screw just above the black handle and turn the threaded insert just above it like unscrewing a bolt this will allow the pin to fall out and at this point you can see what is going on with the locking pin look in the hole with a light. Hope this helps.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:21 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
You just have to put a little snap into the handle when you attempt to rotate the LU. If you just move the handle back and forth it won't work.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:37 pm |
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autogateman
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Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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 Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Then after you figure it all out, go to www.mudmotorstore.com and buy the reverse pin puller.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:57 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
I will check to make sure the pin hasnt been replaced. It sounds like that may be what happened. Though i did get the LU to turn into reverse, so at least can get her turned around but i still think it isnt working 100%. im adding a pic that i questioned earlier, just so i know what it is exactly so when i call prodrive they know what i need
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:20 am |
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Missourimudrunner
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
The hole in question is in between the black knob and the reverse pin. I love these forums you guys been a big help.
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:22 am |
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Wilson
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:35 pm Posts: 935 Location: South LA
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
The black knob is your tension adjuster. Make sure you grease your reverse fittings. They are on the back of the motor, behind the muffler, one is underneath the clutch mounting plate and one on top (probably right behind the black clutch cover). As you rotate the lower unit into reverse, you want to put 2 shots of grease in both fittings each time the pin clicks as you turn it.
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:29 am |
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Missourimudrunner
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Thanks Wilson! Do you know what that missing bolt I am talking about is? The hole above the black knob in my pic?
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:55 am |
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eljefe
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Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
That hole on my lu is capped...its got from the factory a round plate the size of a quarter over where your hole is......there are two allen screws on the opposite side of lu and a grease fitting.
_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:03 am |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Great ill get prodrive to send me that... AND A MANUAL! Not one of the fitting o This motor has not been greased a a good 2 years. I'm lucky nothing else was damaged. Sad seeing these awesome motor neglected.
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:15 am |
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eljefe
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Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
dont take much to squirt a little grease after rinsing her off to put up....
_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:51 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Exactly. It so easy to do but if you don't you ruin your investment.... Well my motor is my investment somehow lol
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:19 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
Don't grease a PD after ever trip
Every 25 hours
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:20 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
_________________ 18x48 Charles Leonard / 36PD
"I do think there is a Squatch in these woods"!!!!!
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:53 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
I definately was not going to run it unroll the hole was plugged. I'm guessing that is where I would add lower unit oil
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:42 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
You can run it like that.
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:43 pm |
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Missourimudrunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 am Posts: 170
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
No way?! Really then water will get into the upper end of the lower unit?!
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mizzippi jb
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: Prodrive manual reverse not working HELP!
yeah, its not a totally sealed lower unit. Turn your motor on its side and 90 wt. will run out where the clutch meets the lower unit. And that missing bolt is on the outside swivel housing anyway right? That hole will not lead to the inside of the LU. Prob put a grease zerk in it.
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
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