Called gatortail this morning to discuss a 23 GTR. Was told by the staff that they are not making the 23 that they are going to upgrade to a 25 robin subaru which I like more hp but I know nothing of this brand anyone have one? And yes it is not on there website because I asked the guy when did they change and he said last week. Just wanted reviews on the motor before I spend a lot of money. Thanks.

wounder why they switch other than the 2hp?

I like the specs of that engine. Forged crank and roller bearing on the PTO side of the crank.

http://robinamerica.com/pfeatures.aspx?pid=21

not to mention the 5 year warranty

That is the exact engine in my Bobcat 250 welding machine. Has right at 900 HARD hours on it, has gotten the cylinders filled with rain numerous times because Miller puts crap exhaust on them, and it runs like a champ!! Plugs and oil change two or three times a year since 2004, never had a problem with it.

Not sure about that exact motor but the Subaru on my 5KW generator ran for 4.5 days like a champ.

Those little engines are stout. I think thats a great move! Plus I'm sure they can be modded and hold up a lot better!

The Subaru has more bottom end torque than both the Briggs and Kohler.

Pretty bad ass little engine!

I wonder if Beepee ess makes a cam and heads for my welding machine?? lol

The price has gone up right at 6 grand. They said it was the efi as well.

Are you buying it for HP restrictions?

No I wanted to buy a motor under 5000 and was going to buy the 23 because I'm putting it on a 15 42 war which I know is no mud boat but I don't use enough to purchase a new boat. Had a gdlt on it last year but had a bad accident and not putting a lt back on. Was looking at mb but further reading changed my mind to gtr. So now with the new price increase I'm torn if I'm gonna spend that might as well spend grand more. But if I'm gonna get the 35 really need to upgrade boat so know I don't know what to do.

Please elaborate on said 'accident'.

Short version is cable froze on motor in the worst spot ever tried to turn key pull kill switch lift motor as I am doing this buddy unplugs light cant see big cypress everything happen so fast hit tree tree flipped boat 8ft water 25 degrees almost lost buddy and dog trapped under boat God was with us an everyone ok. Don't won't to get into big discussion on it or what I shoulda done all I can say is it happen quicker than I could blink and please everyone wear life vest. Gd is no fault by any means cable froze at wrong place I want sd for better mover ability like gt reverse.

Damn, sounds like a bad deal. Glad yall made it out alright.

God was with y'all for sure there. I'm glad y'all made it out ok...

As far as this motor switch, I think thats gonna be awesome! Do they make a 35 in that motor?

Have you considered the 27hp ProDrive?

6 grand though????? Seriously???

Not sure on the 35 didn't ask. Yeah I've looked at prodrive. Thanks for all the input guys y'all are great.

28hp Subaru EFI stock on my boat was faster than my 23hp Vanny with performance cam, decked heads, mikuni carb and high flow muffler. The price point is a steal compared to what my mods cost on top of stock motor. Low end torque (hole shot) and throttle response at all rpm ranges was incredible. Imagine what it might do with the same mods as my 23? It's the new little engine that can! Not affected by impure gasoline, even before you shake the gas tank. Internal specs are far superior to Vanny's. Weight is the same as 23hp Vanny. Fits right into same frame. You can trick out the EFI settings for your preferences but factory settings suitable for broadest rpm spectrum torque specs. Hoyt and Kyle, or Bubba can fill you in with more details. Get you one now.

Think about What a 35 would do.

Never heard of any modds to these motors, are they available? Like the idea of efi. Can't wait to see a video or some reviews of the new engine

Need a 50HP model...I would order two

if im looking right the EFI model is 28hp

Im surprised nobody has used a rotax.

Can you see putting a 8-9 thousand $ motor on a mm frame. or how about blowing one up!! We blew a 120 hp motor on our airboat 3 times.

didnt orion build one with a artic cat motor and cvt transmission? last picture i saw it looked like a freaking dog house painted black. cant find a picture. anyone else saw that thing?

Got a call saying 23's were no more, thanks for the update bubba, this should be anice little addition to the MM market, very reliable motors still HP for the refuges though, stock 25GTR subaru engine your looking at 5999

Lol why not just $6000?

looks better on paper

I bet if you put your order in on one of these NEW engines you don't have to wait a year to get it, or sit around without a motor for a whole season, just hoping you get that phone call